All this also related to Claude Freaners statement "aim for 2100 twists for a 8' leader, 2400 for 10', 2700 for 12' ". We've both made the same leader of 6' length and logically think we should aim for 1800 twists. Duck got to 1950, and i think this makes for a better quality leader, but we don't know if this is noticeable and we can't compare as we're both on opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean.

Karel