Thanks for that REE. I agree that a rib of herl would probably not survive more than a few fish at most. Oh, and the version I've seen with the black hackle addition is by Alice Conbra (an exceptional tyer from Ireland. She has a page on Han's site with some beautiful examples of her work). Would really like to hear of any history you track down on this one. I'm hoping Donald sees this as he may have some information on this pattern. Speaking of which, where is Donald N. these days?

- Jeff