I get ahold of VEE....
if your seeing fish like that taking nothing...
well then I start think of "Out of the box flies"..... like a BIG nasty spider (not no little bluegill catcher!)... or maybe a big mouse falling off the bridge..
Just how big are they..
when I hear big... I think 25inches or bigger
other then that...
Id try to catch his a$$ at night!!
Leonard