Jungle Cock Sub.

[James Ryncarz Jr.]

I'm wondering what is a good substitute to make or buy for jungle cock. I need it for some for a pattern.

Thank You

[ScottP]

Here's some ideas:
http://wcflies.com/blog/2009/02/jungle-cock/

I've also seen an article on using golden pheasant tippets but unfortunately can't find it.

Regards,
Scott

[rainbowchaser]

Some people use starling feathers as an inexpensive jungle cock substitute.

[maodiver]

the new fly tyer mag has an article on making your own wing burners...it shows someone making JC substitutes out of guinea fowl feathers by burning the area around the spot.

[Normand]

the new fly tyer mag has an article on making your own wing burners...it shows someone making JC substitutes out of guinea fowl feathers by burning the area around the spot.

dick talleur showed how to do that on one of his tying videos many years ago

you just need to have the white spot on the feather straddle both sides of the stem and cut a circular shape around the spot leaving a black edge

[hap]

I have been meaning to dip a small hackle in alcohol to degrease it and then drop a small dot of orange hot melt glue on it. Thinking the alcohol will allow the glue to stick to the feather, perhaps even wicking through... Have not tried it yet, but have seen several articles on making what does not look very good to me...

[Darryl]

I've seen many substitutes used, but really, I don't think anything compares to the real thing. I tend to just omit it entirely on most patterns.

[Bamboozle]

If you only need a few nails, the prepacked Jungle Cock eyes aren't that expensive. If you need more than that, a decent full neck like a grade B or C with splits can be had for the price of a good dry fly neck.

Repairing split eyes takes about the same amount of time as making some type of fake eye and the real thing repaired or not, looks 1000 times better.

[Gigmaster]

J. Stockard carries imitation Junglecock eyes. They work great, and are much more durable than the real ones, at 1/100th the cost.

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...Cock-Eyes.html

I use them all the time.

[eaustin]

I've never really thought there was an adequate sub for jungle cock. I've seen subs, I've used subs, and they just don't do it for me, but each to his own. I really hated the fake ones made out of cardboard, or plastic or whatever that was. At some point it's necessary to make a decision to spend all of your money on quality materials. It's one thing I won't skimp on anymore. I just skimp on other things, like food, shelter, and clothing.

Eric