Klinkhammer

[texfly]

What would be the advantages or disadvantages of tying the Klinkhammer pattern on a short vs. a long curved style hook? Most I've seen seem to be on the shorter style hook.

[CaseyP]

some say the longer hook means more hookups and fewer misses because of the wider gape. a genuine klinkhammer hook is long with a very wide gape.

[Steven]

No idea.

But FWIW, it's Klinkhamer with one "m."

[tlerm]

some say the longer hook means more hookups and fewer misses because of the wider gape. a genuine klinkhammer hook is long with a very wide gape.

What CaseyP said.

Plus if I remember correctly, the longer body achieved with the longer hook allows the body of the fly to hang lower under the surface of the water.

Here are a few articles that the originator of that fly, Hans van Klinken, wrote. The hook that he specifies in his tying instructions isn't available now. But there is a Partridge hook named the "Klinkhamer" now.
http://www.mustad.no/catalog/product.php?id=2023

http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10029.htm

http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10030.htm

http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10109.htm

http://www.rackelhanen.se/eng/10110.htm

[Ron Eagle Elk]

I tie my Klinkhamer style flies on both short shank and long shank hooks, specifically Daiichi 1130's and Partridge 15BNX. The Partridge hook is huge when compared side by side with a same sized (numerically) Daiichi. I haven't noticed a difference in hook up rates or lost fish when using one or the other. I do prefer the look of the flies on the Partridge hook, but that's just me.

[mickporter]

Partidges original Klink-Hamer was the 15BN but i believe at Hans's instructions they altered the design slightly and made the 15BNX. So I guess the Partridge is the genuine item. (Strangely Partridge used to call their hooks the Klink-Hammer then corrected the label printing to Klink-Hamer)

In his video Oliver Edwards recreates the pattern to Hans van Klinken's written instructions. He uses the Partridge Klink-hamer hooks but bends them slightly downwards before he ties. Which I am guessing is the alteration Partridges have made.

[inderk]

I tie my klinkhamers mostly on a Gamakatsu F22.
Here's one of my results.

[Fly Tyer]

Hey everyone,
The Klink-Hamer is one of my favorite flies as it is so versatile. When I tie up a bunch I usually choose a few odd colours and try out some new ones. It never hurts and they always seem to produce. I prefer the partridge hooks as they look nicer (as Ron EE said) but I do think the longer shank is better than the short shank. Although if you are good at setting the hook, then it might not matter. I have a feeling Ron EE is a million times better at setting the hook than I am, however he may be right.

I like all the klinkhamer hooks made by partrudge. Ihave several packages of the Klink-Hamer Partridge GRS15ST and the BN15. The BN15 is a little sturdier then the 15ST. The BN15 is shiney where the 15ST is matte. Their shape is roughly the same. The BN15x is the BN15 with a more pronounced kink near the eye so you have a more level platform to tie on the post. This also allows the body to hang into the water more and maybe improve the gape of the hook. However I prefer either the 15ST or the 15BN.

phil

[texfly]

Thanks for the advise guys. Will do some shopping and try a few of those brands of hooks. Also thanks to inderk for posting the awesome photo. Thats a great looking pattern.