Thanks tailingloop that was the answer I was look'n for.

I've been cast'n a fly rod for most of my 40 odd years on this planet and in my experience you can toss the tightest FFF qualified loops all day long but it aint the only thing thats gonna catch you fish, It definently matters were you put your fly but if it dont get there in perfect form the fish just aint gonna know.

I've gotta couple a FFF instructor buddies in my club and I'm always open to pointers, I think I learned to double haul when I was 13 or so while I appreciate the advice but I do believe I'll be ok.