Thanks. Just got back tonight from driving to Baton Rouge, LA to pick up my ultimate 12. Its great. Going paddeling/fishing tomorrow. Its supposed to be in the 60s tomorrow afternoon so I am at least going to get to paddle it - with my rod of course. I think its going to be plenty big. I sat ina 14.5 and it seemed overwhelming to me how big it was. My 5 year old son sat in the 12 with me today and there is plenty of room for us both in it for short trips. I'm pumped. Thanks for the reply.