If I knew more about computers and digital imaging.....I would copy out of my e-mail and post a pic of hog out to the water....an 8 1/2 pound hook nose rainbow caught Oct 3rd at 9am at my favorite little stream. I watched him catch it...on a 9' 4wt rod, 3x tippet with a purple semi-seal leech. About 70' from where I caught the 15" with the angle of the dangle technique...while retreiving the fly. BTW Silvertop2....if you are listening....he caught that hog right there where the road ends and you park....walk directly about 150' to the stream......where everybody and especially new people fish. Not way upstream or downstream where the experienced people fish. RIGHT THERE AT THE CLOSEST PLACE TO THE PARKING AREA! That area has been beat to death but it is where he caught it, and it is where I took a pick of a guy exactly on the other side of the stream last year catching a 5 pounder. Go figure.

Gem