I agree with Heritage. Many of us started tying with the AA, or a vice very simular to it, and they will make a great back up when you do upgrade. This was not brought up yet but, IMHO, I would recommend not buying one of those pre-packaged tying kits. Figure out what type of flies that you want to tie, like buggers, hairs ears, pt's, and then go get the materials for those patterns. The materials for these flies is not expensive and you will get a solid introduction to many tying techniques while you learn these very productive paterns.