for steel i use 25lb,20,15,10,mono then I go 8 or 6 flouro on very small barrel swivel . if they break off u lose tippet only. I use this for steelies because you are either nymphing or using streamers and flouro sinks and is invisible to fish.. I use 25 for the butt so the line sinks faster in the high flows of the great lakes. for regular bassing I just use 30,20,10, then 6 or 4lb no swivel. if you follow leader recipes to a tee they will turn over with ease. mine work well enough for my river and I can cast just fine with them and they have never lost me a fish. i have straightened the hook out before breakin the line. I blood knot every piece together and use improved clinch for leader to fly and leaders to barrel swivels. I use a nail knot for fly line to leader. you can adjust that recipe for a better turn over ratio if you want. have fun and good luck!