thanks wayne one is on the slower side(orvis clearwater mid flex) and one is on the med/fast side(st. croix premier), at least that's the way they feel to me. Might be the profile of the flies that are giving me trouble too.But I haven't fished the 5wts in a long time. What about these "Bass Bug" lines or something with a shorter head like a Headstart line by SA? use 3wt for gill 6wt for bass and 8wt for steelhead. Really no "classic trout streams" in Cleveland Ohio.. Trying to justify my other purchases..
Janus