The Pigeon is the only decent river with 45 minuts of my house (NE Indiana). I met someone who said they caught a 17" brown, on a fly, at the base of the Ontario dam a week ago. He did it with the river down a foot and the water temperature near its summer high. So in addition to small to medium smallies there are real fish in there too. Not bad! It has shiners too so its a mixed bag but, a 17" brown will keep me coming back until I catch THAT fish!