I forgot to mention that my local NuCanoe dealer here in Yakima wants full retail (I know that is usual) PLUS he wants $150 for a delivery fee to his store from the factory in Bellingham, WA. I am not sure but I don't think this is normal practice and that is a big minus for the NuCanoe. I just think when buying from a dealer there ought to be little if any charges for his getting the boat to sell me. Jim Harper