DG I'm with you on this. I too bought a 5wt/WFF Orvis line for $8 on Sierra Trading Post. It floats just as much as my Rios, Wonderlines and Cortlands and casts quite nicely too. I've caught a whole bunch of LMB and Bream with it that I save my $55+ Rio/Wonderlines for clear water. I think it's the best deal out there for flyline albeit it's limited length of ~80ft. Where else can you get floating flyline for this??? Plus it casts real nice too!