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    Rattlesnakes and I seem to have made a kind of uneasy truce over the years. My first encounter was when I was 10 or 11 years old. My friends dad Mr Vernon had taken us fishing to Conkle lake. There were 4 of us kids and although we were not supposed to, we went hunting garter snakes. There were black ones, brown ones and red yellow and black ones. I Caught 20 or so and hid them in a lunch kit taken along for just that purpose. The others did likewise. Returning home we all gathered in my back yard where I had a snake pit. It was an old deep freezer with the lid removed and covered with wire screen.
    We dumped all our snakes into the pit, there were about 75 of them. You could sell them at school to other kids for about 50cents each. Most kids wanted the really small ones. As we were looking at our new acquisitions Carson yelled Hey there?s a rattler in there. Sure enough there was a tiny button rattler about 4 inches or so long. It looked very much like the dull brown garter snakes we were catching. We carefully checked and it turned out we actually had 2 of them . We will never know which one of us had grabbed those 2 tiny snakes. Whew!
    Years later when I was about 25 I had taken my 2 kids to the Okanagan game farm. Ed Lacy the operator of the farm was standing in the rattler pit giving a rattlesnake demonstration to a crowd of about 20 people who were all standing next to the 3 foot high concrete wall of the pit. I called Hi to Ed as I passed by on the way to show the kids the newborn grizzly cubs. I noticed a particularly large rattler crossing the dirt road in front of me. I told the kids to stay put as I went and captured the snake. It was only 300 feet or so back to the snake pit so I took it back to give it to Ed. He was in the middle of his presentation, so I just stood behind the group of tourists awaiting the end of his talk. When He finished I spoke up.
    "Hey Ed do you want this big one? I caught it just over there on the road. " People turned and saw me standing right behind them with this 4 foot long live rattler in my hands. There were a few screams and every single one of them ran for the safety of their cars. I looked at Ed who was laughing up a storm. It had not occurred to me that not everyone is as comfortable around snakes as Ed and I were. I said geeze Ed sorry about that. He replied , no no don't be. That was the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

    At the 2007 Central Washington Fish in I spotted a rattler early in the morning sunning itself on a patch of open ground. I told some fellows I met on the trail where it was and to avoid it. They wanted to kill it but I dissuaded them with the information that killing rattlers is illegal. It is the law in BC where I'm from , I don't know if it is In Washington state but what the heck killing it served no purpose at all so I ad-libbed a bit. ( lied )
    The very next day at Stan Coffin lake Cary (line mender) and I were walking the shoreline casting for bluegills. We ventured down a narrow trail to where there was a likely looking spot for but it was wide enough for one caster, I hung 40 feet or so behind Cary to let him cast. After a couple of minutes I caught a tiny movement only 6 inches from my left foot. There in the grass was a small coiled rattler about a foot and a half long. Now I know that no one would believe me that a coiled rattler that close wouldn?t strike so I stayed put and called Cary over to witness it. He came over at my call, I pointed out the snake beside my shoe.
    ( we were going out in the boat so I had street shoes on instead of boots )
    He said damm! Roger that?s a coiled rattler. Yep it is I said but I figure that it's coiled to get warm not to harm me. It's head was pointing away from me. If it hasn't struck by now it isn't going to. As we watched it, I spotted another darker slightly larger one about 3 feet from the both of us. That was enough snakes in the tall grass to get us to cautiously move off. We went up to ready the boat and as we did two of the State park people drove up in the honey wagon, they were the toilet cleaning crew. The younger of the two began cleaning the area of trash around and near the washrooms. The older fellow obviously the boss, stayed in the truck. So we told both of them about the snakes as they were cleaning in that general area. It turned out that the young guy was summer help earning his way thru college. He was very eager to see a rattler. So Cary and I took him back to the spot. I was pointing out the one rattler when a much bigger one than the first two came flying out of the grass right past all three of us about a foot away from all of us. He was just trying to get away and heading for parts unknown as fast as he could go. Cary and I laughed our heads off as the College kid let out a yell and ran for his life back to the truck. The older guy said to him, well I warned you there were snakes.
    An interesting thing about the first snake was that it was a real reddish copper color. Neither of us had ever seen that variety before. I subsequently learned was a Red Desert rattler. Not rare but not common either. The other two were ordinary darker coloured diamondback snakes.
    Generally speaking Diamondback rattlesnakes are the biggest coward in the bush. Stories in magazines of rattlers chasing and attacking people are pure hogwash.
    They will always retreat if given the opportunity. If You step on one or corner it that?s where the danger lies. It will defend itself if it has to. It is a natural reaction of most people to kill any snake they come across which is a shame because they do a lot of good keeping down the rodent populations. The biggest killer of snakes is the automobile.
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    Used to catch rattlers for the venom and then return them to the wild---Once in high school biology class we were asked to bring a show and tell. Of course that was my chance--nice glass top on the box. I was excused for a while to take the snake to a safer place. My dad would see a rag bag moving that hung in the garage and ask how long before we would take them away..BILL

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    Fishing the Deschutes in Central OR, I can't count how many times I've almost stepped on rattlesnakes coiled up on the path...People think I'm nuts when I then attempt to catch them to get good photos of them...but, I've handled rattlesnakes for over 20 years and have never come close to being bit (always a good thing)...all it takes is a little common sense and having your wits about you...
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    Fitz,,, what did ya want the venom for? How did you get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Castwell View Post
    Fitz,,, what did ya want the venom for? How did you get it?

    I'd bet he was involved in milking them for use in making antivenin. There is money in that for the brave and the crazy. (Wink)

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    A question: Is there an altitude at which rattlesnakes won't be found?

    I've fished above South Fork Co. for eight seasons at 8500 feet and up. Have never seen a rattler there and have been told by locals that they don't live that high. Have seen other snakes, including an 18 inch yellow specimen in the SF River.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCR View Post
    A question: Is there an altitude at which rattlesnakes won't be found?

    I've fished above South Fork Co. for eight seasons at 8500 feet and up. Have never seen a rattler there and have been told by locals that they don't live that high. Have seen other snakes, including an 18 inch yellow specimen in the SF River.
    The answer is yes, but I don't know just what that altitude is. I grew up in Colorado and learned to fly fish on the eastern slope streams in northern Colorado - the St. Vrain, Big Thompson and Poudre. We rarely saw any rattlers, but those few we did see were all at pretty low elevations (mostly just above Lyons, and Lyons' elevation is 5371.) A little internet searching revealed that rattlesnakes have never been seen in Rocky Mountain National Park (lowest elevation about 8000 feet), but they have been reported in Glen Haven, CO elevation 7218.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Castwell View Post
    Fitz,,, what did ya want the venom for? How did you get it?
    I would take the snakes to a local museum and the curator and I would milk them and send the venom off to be used for antivenom. Aiway carried a kit in my search but never had to use it---just used my ears to hear the rattle stopped and looked.
    Once on a trail hike with a ranger he told the people to watch for snakes. One lady said "Snakes Snakes Snakes Your just trying to scare us" He asked me how many I could see at the time. Four---he said 'You see one more than I" Thought she woild pass out. Thay love to lay on the rocks in the sun.

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    I fished the Deschutes and during the 36 hours we were there, between the 4 of us we had 7 rattler encounters. I remember working the river's edge while in the water and climbing out to go around a deep spot to hear a rattler that I couldn't see due to the thick high grass. The next morning I go for a nature call to see one coiled in the path. I had a lot of fun there but probably won't go back due to the rattle snakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkman23 View Post
    Fishing the Deschutes in Central OR, I can't count how many times I've almost stepped on rattlesnakes coiled up on the path...People think I'm nuts when I then attempt to catch them to get good photos of them...but, I've handled rattlesnakes for over 20 years and have never come close to being bit (always a good thing)...all it takes is a little common sense and having your wits about you...
    On my first trip to Maupin I stopped in to the Canyon Shop. I asked about snakes, and Jon said, Oh you'll never see one. I drove out to the fence where the Deschutes Club property started to park, and the ridge was casitng an afternoon shadow on the road. As soon as I reached my destination, there was a rattler about 2.5 feet long. So much for never seeing one.

    I was fishing down around the Junction and was going to the right and uphill on an alternate trail for better walking. There was a little rattler in the basalt rocks at the top of the hump. Naturally, I was not only worried about him, but about his bigger relatives as well.

    Now, one of the more peculiar stories comes from fishing for bream with a popping bug. I caught one and was pulling him in, and a little copperhead was coiled up on an old iron fence post. As the bream fought me, he went to close to the post at a time I had him somewhat out of the water. The snake bit him and sunk his fangs in, with his body coiled around the post. I tried to pull the fish, but the snake would not let go. There was a little tug of war going on there. I let the snake have the bream.

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