Well, those are all nice wing cases you mentioned for stone flies, but not exactly what I was looking for - maybe a GRHE wing case would be more descriptive - where you use the turkey, or whatever you use, but it's tied in at the thorax, and pulled over and tied down at the head - I would like mine to be broad across the thorax, and narrow at the head, do you just use the small end of the material, where the end of it is soft enough to "scrunch up"?