Thanks....right now I'm leaning towards the outcast 10IR...I like the platform that can slide back. I've taken my 9' fishcat down the Madison, Bighole, Beaverhead, and the Truckee and I want the platform to the lakes around here. I love my toon and its stability, but since my lack of grace sometimes causes me a dip once in a while, I really need to research to lower my unwanted river swimming lessons. Do you know if there is a weight limit to the platforms? and when the bar is stowed, does it interfere with storage? Sorry, I apologize for all the questions, but I have been spoiled by you people here........you know everything, and have been my go resource for the stuff I need to know...so thanks!!!