Fly Rules

[Fenderplayer104]

I was curious if using a dropper rig or tandem rig would violate the single hook fly description most trout parks and catch and release areas
have. With winter trout coming up here in st. louis i was gonna work on my skills and hopefully use it next year at some of the rivers.

[modocdan]

Here in Oregon, you can use Dropper/Tandem rigs in the fly only/ catch & release areas. Hooks must be under max. sise of course. I think they're trying to disallow double & treble hooks. Also in some areas, no weighted flies, that's lead wire, bead heads, and sinking line.. Check your regs.......ModocDan

[ridgeliner]

To me single has always meant ONE. I doubled checked my dictionary and it said single means ONE and ONLY ONE. So I don't think you want to get caught with anything else in an area that the regulations say only a single hook can be used.

[Betty Hiner]

Yes, I have been told that tandem is NOT legal in the Missouri Parks. One is one.

[Normand]

isnt the answer in your state fishing regulation booklet or website???

[bgreer]

isnt the answer in your state fishing regulation booklet or website???

It is not really defined in the Missouri reg book. The closest thing is that an angler may only use up to 3 rods and no more than 33 hooks.

I have seen people in Missouri parks use more than one fly. Usually a dry and dropper.

I am quite sure that it is legal to use more than one fly.

Just to be sure, I have e-mailed this question to the person who handles this sort of thing for the Missouri Dept. of Conservation.

I will post his reply here when I get a reply.

Brian

[Gnu Bee Flyer]

FLY RULE

The infield fly rule applies when there are fewer than two outs, and there is a force play at third (runners on first and second base, or bases loaded). In these situations, if a fair fly ball is hit that, in the umpire's judgment, is catchable by an infielder with ordinary effort, the batter is out regardless of whether the ball is actually caught in flight. The rule states that the umpire is supposed to announce, "Infield fly, if fair." If the ball will be almost certainly fair, the umpire will likely yell, "Infield fly, batter's out!" or just "Batter's out!" Umpires also typically raise one arm straight up to signal to everyone that the rule is in effect.

ERGO; If Conservation Officer Yells "Illegal fly" , "your Out" and raises his arm straight up He is signaling that your out and liable to a hefty fine.

[Gramps]

Single hook could also mean single hook per fly. You're going to catch the fish with only one hook.

[jjtroutbum]

In missouri parks dropper rigs are legal. So i am shure that they would also be in the Urban fishing parks also. This has been discussed a couple of time at

http://ozarkanglers.com/forums/index.ph ... l=droppers


Ill look up the regs and post them

3 CSR 10-12.150 Fishing, Trout Parks
PURPOSE: This rule establishes methods,
seasons, and limits for fishing within Trout
Park streams under management agreement
with the department.
(1) On Maramec Spring Park, Bennett Spring
State Park, Montauk State Park and Roaring
River State Park:
(A) Fishing is permitted on designated
waters during posted hours. Not more than
one (1) pole and line may be used by one (1)
person at any time. Gigging, snaring, snagging,
and the taking of live bait are prohibited.
Flies, artificial lures, unscented soft plastic
baits and natural and scented baits may be
used, except in waters posted as restricted to
specific baits or lures. The use of any foods
to attract fish, except when placed on a hook,
is prohibited.
(B) Trout fishing is permitted from March
1 through October 31. The daily limit is four(4) trout,
and no person shall continue to fish
for any species after having four (4) trout in
possession. Fishing in the designated trout
waters is permitted only by holders of a
signed valid area daily trout fishing tag.
? On a designated portion of Montauk
State Park and Roaring River State Park,
catch and release trout fishing only is permitted
from March 1 through October 31. Only
flies may be used, and trout must be returned
to the water unharmed immediately after
being caught. Trout may not be possessed in
these designated areas, and no person with
four (4) trout already in possession may fish
there.
(D) Trout fishing is permitted from 8:00
a.m. to 4:00 p.m. on Fridays, Saturdays,
Sundays and Mondays from the second Friday
in November through the second Monday
in February at Bennett Spring State Park,
Montauk State Park and Roaring River State
Park. Fishing in designated trout waters is
permitted only by holders of a valid trout permit.
Only flies may be used, and all fish must
be returned to the water unharmed immediately
after being caught. Fish may not be possessed
on these waters.
(E) Trout fishing is permitted from 8:00
a.m. to 4:00 p.m. daily from the second Friday
in November through the second Monday
in February at Maramec Spring Park. Fishing
is permitted only by holders of a valid trout
permit. Only flies may be used and all fish
must be returned to the water unharmed
immediately after being caught. Fish may
not be possessed on these waters


(23) Flies, lures and baits: The following are
authorized for use except where restricted in
3 CSR 10-6.415, 3 CSR 10-6.535, 3 CSR 10-
11.205, 3 CSR 10-12.135 and 3 CSR 10-
12.150.
(A) Natural and scented baits?A natural
fish food such as bait fish, crayfish, frogs
permitted as bait, grubs, insects, larvae,
worms, salmon eggs, cheese, corn and other
food substances not containing any ingredient
to stupefy, injure or kill fish. Does not
include flies or artificial lures. Includes
dough bait, putty or paste-type bait, any substance
designed to attract fish by taste or
smell and any fly, lure or bait containing or
used with such substances.
(B) Soft plastic bait (unscented)?Synthetic
eggs, synthetic worms, synthetic grubs and
soft plastic lures.
? Artificial lure?A lure constructed of
any material excluding soft plastic bait and
natural and scented bait as defined in (A) or
(B) above.
(D) Fly?An artificial lure constructed on
a single-point hook, using any material
except soft plastic bait and natural and scented
bait as defined in (A) or (B) above, that is
tied, glued or otherwise permanently
attached.

[Mato Kuwapi]

In Ontario, we don't have too many no kill fishing zones. Each No Kill waterway seems to have its own rules at the moment, too. The upper Grand is one such place. Single barbless hooks, no bait. In this case, Single barbless hook means ONE hook but it can contain more than on barb, unlike the rules in BC. Single means SINGLE there.

In Ontario that means you can have ONE fly on your fly line, so no, you can not use a tandem rig or dropper off a dry in those waters. But is most other waters its perfectly legal.