When do Flies become Lures

[bdesavage]

OK Maybe its the Snow this week got the "Spring Fever" thing going or I just want to "Raise" a Ruckus... When does the Fly turn into a "Lure"?(or Crankbait) Is it just because we use a Fly Rod that takes it out of the Lure Catagory?
Bill

[Buddy Sanders]

All flies are 'lures', but many lures are not flies.

Other than that, it's way to subjective a definition.

Good Luck!

Buddy

[Eight Thumbs]

Flies officially become lures under five conditions:

1. More than four pairs of treble hooks.

2. Their weight makes them impossible to cast even with a #12 weight rod and matching Clouser line

3. They cause invading BASS anglers to back off their boats when you fling one in their direction.

4. Every fish in a two mile radius flees when the fly/lure hits the water

5. When every single member of FAOL agrees that it's a lure

Hope this helps clarify the distinction. 8T

[Greg Hunsicker]

A fly becomes a lure when it can be tied to conventional or spinning or baitcasting tackle and the fly casts the line.

[ducksterman]

A fly becomes a lure when it can be tied to conventional or spinning or baitcasting tackle and the fly casts the line.

[DG]

I draw the line at propellers or lips.

[ashbourn]

What about a wolly bugger with a propeller???
What about the old fly rod lures??? They were to light to be cast from a spinning rod.
Weight can not be the guideline because you can always water load a real heavy fly.
I think we have blurred the line too much. We may want to change our out look to what type of rod we use to fish them.
As long as there is no bait I do not care much.
Joe Fox

[Buddy Sanders]

The weight thing is too simple.

Take the time one of these days and see just how far you can cast some of our 'weighted' flies.

Traditional weighted Clousers can easily be cast 'fishing distances', with a light spinning rod. Some of those that are really 'heavy' I can cast with baitcasting tackle.

Many stomefly nymphs are also easily cast far enough to catch fish with spinning gear.

I can cast a #8 tungsten bead head wolly bugger over 30 feet with an ultra light spinning rod.

Two weighted nymphs with a couple of small 'fly fishing' size split shot and an indicator are easily castable with spinning gear (many every day 'bait chuckers' fish lighter rigs for bluegills).

With an ultra light spinning rod I can cast a #16 weighted GRHE far enough to catch fish in a small stream.

All flies are lures, not all lures are flies. The difference is ONLY in the mind of the individual fisherman.

Good Luck!

Buddy

[JeffHamm]

Hi,

And here I was thinking it would be a debate on hook size! In New Zealand lure, with respect to flies, is used instead of the term "streamer".

- Jeff

Bill;
Well, my good friend, you always manage to "Stir the Pot"!! Today it was olive flymph's and reverse spiders that lured the trout to the hook!! I took 5 and Warren took 7 on the Duck River just below the dam. You and Jean come on down and I'll show you how to do it!