Yeah well HENs, PTNs, and Zug Bugs or Prince Nymphs (covering all the bases of light, medium, and dark colored nymphs) don't work too well for me here. The bream seem to be a bit more picky and prefer the local black Damsel Nymphs so I use black MDNs (that's Marabou Damsel Nymphs) mostly. Maybe one of the standard nymph patterns will pay off for me sometime but they haven't yet (since I've been using them down here).