Fly and refund were both shipped when stated. Authentication has also been established by the tier. The email I had was invalid for me to send it to Z. As for all the soapbox lawyers we have on here, everyone can say what they want when anonymous, and thanks RW for planting ideas( A lawyer friend had a big grin after he read this thread). I was not giving excuses for my situation, nor laying blame on anyone else. I took my lumps as they came, and tried to move on. So, as for fraud, it can be shoved in a pipe & smoked. As for losing business over this situation, I've been busier than before this whole can o' worms was opened, and mostly business from FAOL members to be exact. If Z would like to forward me a proper email address, I will forward him the email from the tier of both flies he purchased, authenticating them. I have tried my best to rectify this situation, and it seems to no avail. As for the PM's from folks over this- Thanks, your kindness will be repaid. As always, Jamie