OK, I understand now. I guess I got all caught up in that straight "demo" cast that ones sees at the casting shows (ofwhich I also can cast like in a gymnasium without wind or water) and thought my cast were just average on the stream.

I am starting to sound dumber with every post. Anyway, maybe I am not as bad as I was thinking. Beginning to think fly fishing is like golf, a lot of average fisherman but very few great ones. Or should I say, no one has it perfected! We all have our good days and bad.

Thanks for the information.