What a awesome story! You have a excellent talent there danbob. It had me laughing all the way through it. I wouldn't worry about stepping on pat's toes. The story reminded me of my childhood. My dad (may he rest in peace) was a lot like ralph. We lived on the canadian border in a little town called curlew washington. lived up rattlesnake creek road at the end of the road. Dad drank his ss check away and we lived on what we could raise and shoot. Dad was a good cook though.Thank you so much for the good memories and the great laugh I enjoyed it