I think it pertains to the line size but I'm not sure. Can someone let me know what it means. Thanks.
Bamboo lingo, HCH or C ?
I think it pertains to the line size but I'm not sure. Can someone let me know what it means. Thanks.
HCH
Flyster, HCH is a DT8F, C is L8F. Steelhead, Bass rod
This may also help.
http://www.bamboorodmaking.com/html/lin ... sions.html
Erik
Thanks guys. You guys are quick!! Boy with all the Z's,X's and Zero's out there It's nice to go back to some simple letters. Thanks again, Later.
Re: HCH
Anyone else notice. Both Orvis and bamboorodmaking say that C=7 wt.Originally Posted by clyde holmes
Bear742
Line sizes
One caution. The old letter system used for silk lines was based on line diameter, and made some assumptions about the lines tightness of weave and its consequent weight. The new system is based on weight as measured in the first so many feet of line less some measure of the front tip or something. The point is, it is based on weight. There have been many conversion charts over the years and some even agree with each other. At best they are all a good point of beginning. And then this is complicated by the nature of bamboo rods. One guy will swear a bamboo rod casts best with a 7 wt line, the next guy knows for a fact that it is a 6 wt rod. Chances are they are both right but one casts or fishes differently from the other.
Use the conversion charts as a good beginning but don't be surprised if you like the rod with a different line.
AgMD
Re: Line sizes
Most excellent point. The Venerable John Gierach provides the best example in his works. Get a bunch or different lines and try them.
Bear742
the chart on BAmboorodmaking lists the diameter of the silk line. Where is this diameter measured> At the tip? 10' in? I'm really curious as I have serveral silk lines and would like to know the weight.
The only things we permanently keep, are those we give away-Waite Philips
Measuring the diameter of the line at the running or level portion of a tapered line(that is, where it is not tapering toward the tip) will allow you to convert to the letter class of the line, A, B, C, D, etc. An average of several measurements not including any tapered portions or the reduced shooting portions of a WF line will be better because even in the so called level section there will be variations in diameter. From there you can do a rough translation to line weight, 10, 9, 8, 7, etc. But you really are not out of the woods. The only way to get the AFTMA weight precisely on these is to weigh the first 30 feet on a scale.
Bear742
silk lines
If you have a dt line it will have 3 distinct diameters ( as well as transition diameters between them) If the tips both have a diameter that corresponds to say "H" and the belly has a diameter that is equal to say "C" you then have an HCH line. WF lines are designated the same but naturally the tapers would be different -- such as HCF.
One thing to keep in mind is that this system only establishes the diameters of the line at it these points. It does nothing to define how long these sections are. Post war (WWII) there was a lot of experimentation by line manufacturers. It was not uncommon for two lines with the same designation to be quite different because one manufacturer chose to make a long tip and a short transition to belly and the other made a different length tip with a longer transition.
If this is something that interests you, I would recommend McClaine's "The Practical Fly Fisherman". There is a whole chapter devoted to lines and pages of taper comparisons between manufacturers. And a darn good book too.
AgMD
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