I was over to Cabella's yesterday to get more essentials( aka things that catch my eye) and saw a couple of 8 year olds with enough "stuff" to make a very ornate and dangerous pillow (I mean these kids had a lot of stuff and were figuring on using it, not their first time there ). I asked "Do you kids tie"? To which I recieved a very serious "Of course". So I guess 8yrs
old was not those kids starting point.( I mean they had a pile of stuff! )