you're right about the length jc. I musta had a brain **** when I looked at it!! I appeciate the responce. I fish two lakes with extensive "builder' channels" that has BG up to 7-8" fish [a FEW 9"] shere you only need a 20-25' cast. With the trees and cottages wind is usually somewhat erratic but also fairly mild. I haven't bought any new gear this year and the wife is starting to worry!!

donald