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Very nice pattern Donald. It's those types of pattern's that got me interested in the hook's. They really seem to better fit those type of wet fly pattern's.

Thanks for all the helpful info Donald. I'm most interested in hooks such as the B160. I guess that's one style thats for the European market because I have not found anything that seem's to compare...

How are they the same? I haven't seen much of the two compared on hook chart's.

Thanks for the tip Donald. Do you use them on any of your pattern's?

I've seen him tie a dry and an emerger on the B160. He says the short shank allows a short body without giving up the gape. As in the #16 has the gape of a #14.

Anyone use or have an opinion about Kamasan fly hook's? They seem to be a favorite of Davie McPhail who's work I really admire. The B160 he use's on some pattern's that's a short shank , wide gape...