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Is fluorocarbon a must? I got enough regular green mono size 10 and 12 that I'd like to use. I like Tailingloop suggestion (level leader 6' of 10 or 12 pound test).

Thanks RocketFish, I appreciate the info.

Should I use something thicker if I'm throwing an 8wt?

That sounds like an easy formula. I need to tie some leaders for the surf also, what wold you recommend for # 4 and 6 flies?

what's the 4 1 4 formula?