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Denny, there was no malice intended. I think some folks just don't get my sense of humor. I will cease and desist on this thread.

I am sorry guys to have infuriated a few "fast" rod guys (so defensive) and I will not take any more jabs. One thing I do not understand, is why the masses keep migrating toward lighter line rods?...

Chewy; you got me...Biased against fast rod. Regardless of the relative stiffness of a rod, or rate of recovery, a flyrod needs to be adequately loaded in able to perform to it's full potential. I...

A stiif fast rod may be appropriate for tight line nymphing with a short line, but if you want to reach out with an indicator system, you best be a phenominal caster to turn over a lot of weight...

If I were casting bobbers, I would overline the 9' 4wt rod with a 5 wt line to load the rod deeper. This would facilitate an easier action to propel the rig...letting the rod do the work. Rod...