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I agree with dudley about the funnel efect of the butt guide. I had a 14 and 10 fuji nsg on a 8wt that I built back in 1989 and occasionaly I would have a problem with the butt gude. In my experience...

I would use a 20 and a 16 on an 8wt. Jack
P.S. I use Fuji NSG

[This message has been edited by Jack S (edited 11 February 2006).]