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Pitt:
You're absolutely the best guy in the world of fly fishing!!!

Allan,

I'm through on this. Believe what you want, but this is what you said earlier:

""The trout have 'learned' about Catskill dries/hackled flies/hair flies/etc, and they simply won't hit...

Allan,

Your opinion is worth as much as mine. However, it does not correspond to the vast majority of writers in the field.

As to your comment about Catskill dries. It is not that they have...

Steven,
There are MANY books written about the trout's ability to survive. This fish with a brain the size of a pea knows how to survive. He knows how and where to reproduce each year. He knows...

Thanks for the invite Allan, but I already have my airline ticket to Last Chance Idaho.
By the way, I do know what a Castskill fly is. I have tied them over the years, have a shadow box of Mary...

Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough for others.

I found this passage in Rene Harrop's great book "Learning From the Water". Now, I know most here are much more knowledgable than Rene,...

Springing for mine from Kauai

They are popular there - particularly amongst the guides

Here's the story:
Generally or somewhat representative patterns work best on rivers with little fishing pressure. As I said, at the end...

My attempt to apply Harrop's design to a March Brown cripple.
John: I guess you have definitely blown a hole in the basic principles of selective fish..................
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Certainly not trying to be argumentative; and I agree with a lot of what you say. However, these patterns of Rene's are not "hot new flies". He has been tying and fishing them for years and years. ...

Once again...............my point, and that of Rene Harrop..............is that in heavily fished areas, with catch and release, trout become very cautious about taking the fishers' offerings. To...

Thanks Dave. I agree completely. The point was that such flies are needed now days in heavily fished waters with catch and release. Fish that get caught a number of times during their life tend to...

I don't like fishing under a freeway, but, just like your posts, just a personal opinion

You certainly do not need to change your opinion! Maybe, though, if you fish the Ranch on the Henry's Fork. It is purported to be one of the toughest sections of any river to fool the biggest guys...

Here is a selection of Rene Harrop's flies I purchased from the Trouthunter in Last Chance.
I don't know anyone who ties as well as he and Bonnie and their son and daughter. Not just the technical...

Enlightening. Thanks. I think there may be some fly tiers/fishers who do care. Rene's book is a pretty big seller and it is based upon fly designs which more closely represent the various life...

Tex,

Interestingly enough, Rene Harrop's book addresses the very question you asked (I think). But, first let me say, my comments and Rene's comments apply to heavily fished, famous fly fishing...

Hi,

A while back I posted my view that the flies of "yesteryear" such as the Wulf series, catskill series, Pott flies, etc. would not fare as well today as they did in the "old days". As you...