Whodathunk fly tying would turn into Alchemy???? Could the problem be we've been inhaling this stuff way too long? :rolleyes:
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Whodathunk fly tying would turn into Alchemy???? Could the problem be we've been inhaling this stuff way too long? :rolleyes:
It was Alchemy to begin with! We all try to turn feathers and fur into fish, don't we? :)
Toluene is not a glue, or a jelly, or anything else. If you take pure toluene and let it dissolve, the residue (if any at all) is not sticky or goopy. If toluene was the goopy part, it would leave a residue. Toluene is a solvent. It is impossible for a solevent to be a glue. A solvent can be a carrier for a glue, but it cannot be a glue, it simply lacks the chemical properties to make it a glue. As I mentioned earlier, the list on the packaging is not a complete list of ingredients, but a list of MSDS controlled substances. By FDA law, foods and drugs must list all ingredients, but nothing else has to list all ingredients. Paints don't, fuels don't, smokes don't. That's because for most of these prodects, listing the ingredients would be devulging proprietary secrets. If they don't have to list it, they won't. The exception is the listing of MSDS controlled chemicals, which are those that pose health risks. But the regulations are to list only those chemicals, not all of the chemicals.
I meant to reference your first post, doftya, spot on...
It is intriguing for the company to use toluene as the carrier and chose naphtha as the solvent...
BassBug, the Angler's Art is my favorite show with LeRoy and Dave: http://kwsu.org/Offers/FlyTying.aspx
I really didn't know that naptha was a key component. Go get some and try it and let us know how it works for you. I already bought the Toluene from Ace, but I guess I have Naptha in the house already. Interesting twists on a wax thread.
:p
an interesting side note, toluene used to be avaliable just about everywhere in quarts. Then it became a favorite of brain dead chemical huffers. Its a lot harder to steel a gallon than a quart so I guess thats why you cant find it in quarts anymore.
Eric
OK, Eric I'm taking that as a challenge...going to search out our stores here and see ....of course my brain is so addelled [SP] because of it .....I won't remember :confused::confused::confused:.
If anybody is planning to buy a small quantity of NAPTHA for thinning you don't have to buy quarts. RONSONOL lighter fluid is napfha and is available in some drug stires in small
5 oz. containers.
I went to my local building supply this afternoon, found toulene in quarts. so it is out there.
Eric
Finally made it to Ace. Side by side on self in the solvent section was Toluol (Toluene) and VM&P (Naphtha) both for $7.49/qt. Also on the shelf was Xylol (Xylene), MEK (Methel Ethyl Ketone) and Acetone. All in Ace brand quart containers.
So based on this entire thread I've come to conclusion that LeRoy Hyatt & Dave Engerbretson have THEIR information not quite right!
Now my only question on thinning Shoe Goo is, if it contains both toluene AND naphtha, whats the difference in thinning with only one of teh two versus using both. I'm just thinking, "why are both in it it the first place?"