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Carp question
Hey guys, I have fished for carp since long a go with flies and do pretty well, but I found this lake were I know there are lots of carp, but its too deep and I haven't had any sucess, I was thinking maybe if I chummed a little I coul atract carp closer to the surface, question is what kind of chum should I use??
Tight Lines and big smiles!!!
Xavier
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I have never chumed for carp, but a few years back, I remember watching a carp fishing segment on In Fisherman. They would throw out field corn that they had soaked in a 5 gallon bucket over night. The soaking was to soften it up. They would then throw out scoop fulls of the corn and wait for the carp. I think they were using night crawlers for bait, but I think you could do the same thing with a good carp fly pattern.
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I have a friend in the office who uses old boiled corn to chum for carp on Lake Ontario. He got the idea from Lonnie King (also from the office). Lonnie is one of Canada's top carpers so it must work? They would chum the night before going out. The only problem they had was the other carpers would try to get into the spots that they chummed (vultures, I tell ya!).
Not flyfishing of course.
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Paul H.
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"A dry fly on the rise is the beauty mark of a lovely river."
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If your lake is steep sided they should feed near the surface anyway,espacially when the wind is blowing or has blown for some time.Plain white bread sometimes works well to get them on top.Try keeping a lookout for wind blown stuff collected in wind lanes the carp should be nearby.In my experience catching carp in deep water is difficult.They need to be fairly shallow to achieve consistent success.I've known guys who "trained" carp to rise to bread through constant feeding,the only limit I'd say, would be your own personal code of ethics.
hope this helps
Adam
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European carpers call this "groundbaiting". I guess it sounds a bit more classy than chumming. I have never done it and never will, but whether you choose to groundbait or not is up to you. Best of luck.
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I have the exact same situation in the lake I live on. Plenty of carp that feed in deep water. I have never chumed before, but wouldn't the catfish also be likely candidates for soaked corn? Would you just throw out the corn and wait to see who's coming for dinner? Anyone ever had that experience?
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Xavier,
The corn will work but the problem is that it sinks and you don't know what's down there. Also, don't expect it to work immediately. You've got to condition them and that may take several days.
I agree with Adam on all counts. You can get them used to rising to torn up bread if you do it consistently for awhile. Also, I eat at a local restauraunt that has a patio overlooking a river here where I live and they will set a bowl of dog food pellets on your table if you ask to feed the carp with. They come in by the droves to feed on it once they hear it hit the water. Some really big ones. I've threatened to tie up a dog food pellet fly out of round foam colored brown with a marker and take my tube over there and chum them in before the restauraunt opened but as yet I've not done it. Like Adam said, even though the lake is deep, there should be a time that they will feed shallow like when the cottonwood or elm seeds are falling or during a mayfly hatch or like Adam said on a windy day in the scum line that forms.
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It's funny you say that Robert,we have a local fly(originaly tied to imitate a beetle)that looks alot like dog pellets in the larger sizes and the carp love it!It's pretty simple,just spun deer hair clipped to shape with a ginger hackle up front.Does anyone here catch carp in deep water consistently?I've managed once or twice by casting at the rising bubbles they leave as they root around the bottom but it's never a sure thing.
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Adam,
I've caught a lot of carp fishing deeper water for other species but I wouldn't say it's been "consistent". There are certain lakes I fish that I can plan on catching a carp or two every trip certain times of the year while blind casting but nothing I can depend on. It's pretty hit and miss.
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pharper,
What a coincidence! I fished against Lonnie King here:
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Carpcrazy,
Corn is excellent chum but, like Robert says, it sinks. Therefore, it would be difficult drawing them to the surface with it.