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We will be having a new Cabela's opening first of next year. I was wondering what is the difference between them and Bass Pro. I also was thinking about applying for a job there as well and wanted to know if anyone has ever worked there.
Thanks in advance
Jason
Generally speaking, and strictly my opinion, I like Cabela's over Bass Pro. Both are okay. Bass Pro is better for general fishing and boats. Cabela's is better for fly fishing, hunting, archery, camping, and clothing. Like I said, purely my opinion, based on Cabela's in Hamburg PA vs Bass Pro in Harrisburg PA. Also, I'm looking at quality, not prices. Cabela's is pricier, but usually better quality. Most of what I buy there is clothing, and my Cabela's clothing is definitely better made than anything I ever bought from Bass Pro. None of this is to say I don't like Bass Pro because I do.
I have no experience with working there or people who have worked there.
Have shopped at both and I like Cabelas best. Store has more class plus they have their bargain cove that has some real sale values. ALSO ... if you show up and you happen to be en route and towing a camper, you can setup in the back parking lot at no charge, use their facilities and eat at their sandwich shop (has a breakfast bar in the morning).
What PA Dave said, Bass Pro is more bass fishing focused, casting, spinning, etc., they also seem to have more in the boating line compared to the few Cabelas I have been too. But both companies are going to tailor their offering to the local market. The BPS at Atlanta is not as elaborate as several of the stores I have visited. The Phoenix store has a "Fine Guns" room with everything in it 5 figures or more; several have golf shops, Atlanta doesn't; some have ranges in the store; the Foxboro, Mass store is my favorite it has a 42 ft. replica of a whale and large sharks hanging from the ceiling and a real birch bark canoe for a decoration. I think you will be pleased compared to the Atlanta BPS or Charlotte for the fly shops.
BassPro is a good mega-store. Cabelas is an extravaganza! Cabelas still have fly shops within their stores. BassPro has largely closed theirs, but still maintain limited inventory. Each of the Cabelas I've been to also has a beautiful high-end gun collection with very knowledgable personnel. It's like walking through a firearms museum with tour guide on hand to answer questions. Pretty impressive.
The Bass Pro in Nashville still its fly fishing section when I was there a couple of weeks ago. They have re-arranged the area, but it is still there and about the same size execpt that waders are now in the footwear part of the store and the display seemed to be smaller.
Ed
BassPro (in Nashville) used to have a shop called White River Fly Shop (or some such). They blew that up (maybe as a result of the flood) but still have limited flyfishing stuff in the same general area. It's a fraction of what it used to be and nothing in comparison to Cabelas.
I've been to both & I don't think there's any doubt that Cabela's is far better. As far as pricing, Cabela's is good & always seems to have unadvertised instore sales as a pleasant surprise. I think you'll like the store.
If you want to know about working there, contact Faol member Bluegill222. Unless he recently changed, he IS a Cabela's employee. Tell him old 'tuber passed his name out & I said he needs to get back to Ohio for more good 'gil fishing!
Mike
I echo what most here have said, and prefer Cabela's by a wide margin over Bass Pro. Bass Pro seems like a Gander Mountain/Dicks/Sports Authority on steroids. That said, the Bass Pro in Springfield, MO is not to be missed, and Hemingway's restaurant is fun+ and is a fine place to eat.
As far as working there, the employees of all the Cabela's I've been to seem friendly, helpful and happy, which I equate to enjoying working there. The Bass Pro's not so much. I spent some time in the fly shop in Springfield's BP and the guy manning it totally ignored me and never said a word.
Shopping there and working there can be two differnt birds.
As for working for any one of those, remember that the store is in business to sell,retail sales. So,when are you open?? Weekends and holidays, evenings.
The people in the Hamburg,PA Cabelas store are great people. I know a good share of them. I'm only 20 minutes away,so most of the employees are local. Now having an employee tell you what it's like? May not be the best thing to do. Someone on here will read this and say, hey you wrote this about the boss!!! Or you said this....The employee will say it's great place to work. Well I do know that all of the full time employees are told you will work 3 out of 4 weekends. Suck it up. Only one employee off at one time. To go over that, you need the department head to OK that. You will be there during all of the sales days and holidays sales days. Get used to it. You will be there.
Par timers are hired to work---weekends. When are the sales going to mostly happen?? Weekends, before Christmas, holidays, opening days for hunting,fishing,etc. Good luck. I do also know they have given steaks dinners to employees for having good quarters, great sales weekends,etc. Only problem is that to get the steak dinners, you have to work..... It's retail so if you're used to retail and like dealing with customers, not alwyas happy customers, good luck.
I think I'll just go down and visit myself.
I doubt Bass Pro is any better. It's retail....
Randy
Well, it is the "quiet sport"...Quote:
I spent some time in the fly shop in Springfield's BP and the guy manning it totally ignored me and never said a word.
When I read that line it put me to thinking about when I just want to browse around a little, have all kinds of sales people pestering me; and when I get serious about some item then I have to hunt someone down!
There are differences, but they are more similar than different.
I think people who have worked retail for a while, get to where they can tell the difference in people who are looking for something and people who are just looking. Both stores are going to do what makes them money. I have been ignored at both Cabelas and Bass Pro, and at better stores than either.
It is still there and in the same place. What happened is they took out a part of the wall that contained it and brought in some other types of fishing gear after the moved the fly fishing apparel to other parts of the store. In that regard it is less convenient, but their selection is still about the same as before. They have pushed a couple of racks of fly rods out into the main area of the store. It just isn't as cozy and contained as it used to be. The flies and fly-tying stuff are in the same place although there have been changes in what is carried. The rack space is exactly the same. The tools are the about the same and mostly in the same places, although there has been some migration in that regard. The inside wall to the right is gone. I grant you that some of that space has gone to spin fishing gear, but most of the area now occupied by other fishing gear is where the waders were and those have moved to the diagonally opposite corner of the store with the other footwear. Again, that is not convenient to fly anglers but seemed to make sense to the management. I suppose we frightened the duck hunters?Quote:
Originally Posted by zaxaca
The Cabela?s I went to in Michigan was not that much better for fly fishing except in the selection of vises. Apparently both chains tailor their stores to perceived demand and thus stores are different. Cabela?s reps have told me that they tend to concentrate more on hunting than fishing. I have patronized both chains fairly heavily and agree, although Cabela?s does seem to give a greater percentage of their fishing department to fly fishing.
The really sad thing to me is Cumberland Transit moving its fly fishing area to ?purgatory? in the loft, to use an optimistic term. It seems the new partner felt a need to stamp around and mark territory. And of course, such actions usually leave an unpleasant smell.
Including Bass Pro, we have 4 fly shops in Nashville if Game Fair Ltd. kept theirs. I miss the Fly Chucker, but things change and we miss the things we liked when they change or go away. Anyone who fishes the Harpeth River drainage for a number of years should be thoroughly used to that concept.
Regards,
Ed
as another Pa guy, I happen to think the White River Fly Shop in the Harrisburg BPS is "better" than the fly fishing section in the Hamburg Cabela's. They seem to have a wider selection of stuff IMO. Everyone who works in the WR Fly Shop in Harrisburg is a fly fisherman and fly tyer. Bobby Clouser is the manager, so there is a ton of local knowledge and everyone is friendly.
As for the rest of it, I agree with the other posts... The Hamburg Cabela's outshines the BPS in the gear fishing category, if that is possible. It is HUGE. Cabela's quality seems above BPS quality on average. I have A LOT of Cabela's branded gear, from waders to camping gear to rods, you name it. I have never been disappointed with anything Cabela's put their name on. I've had some el-cheapo quality stuff from BPS. YMMV.
I've been to the Springfield BPS several years ago and it was also incredibly huge.
Neither appeal to me. I tried to order a drilling from a Cabela's and it took two days and an e-mail to headquarters to get a response. When it arrived the frame was cracked between the two bite slots and what the sales person called "just a tiny bit loose, maybe .001 to .002" was a full, measured .018. I saw the crack in the frame immediately and they couldn't? ....no, I'm not impressed with them. I've tried to call or e-mail other stores to talk to them and maybe look at drillings or combo guns and can't get a reply. I no longer try.
The closest Bass Pro to me is their HQ in Springfield. Great place just to visit but I won't go back to buy....can't get waited on when it is evident you need some advice/assistance.
I can't say how it is to be in eithers employ....nor do I believe I wish to know.
PA Dave pretty much nailed my preference for the big C over B.P.S.
Of the honkin' big outdoor retailers that I can shop in person, this is how I rate them based on my expenditures.
( I have outdoor interests beyond fly fishing )
Cabela's, REI, Scheel's ( Takes "Best of show" every time. ), Sportsmen's Warehouse, Orvis, Sports Authority, Big 5, Sierra Trading Post ( aka: Leftovers R' Us. ) and B.P.S. still can run in the maiden races.
:wink:
Dave
Having grown up in Springfield, MO and gone to school with Johnny Morris, I may be a bit biased, but I like Bass Pro better. It is primarily a fishing store. A fly fishing friend of mine who works at Cabela's calls it "a hunting store that occasionally thinks about fishing." My local Cabela's has a small fly fishing area (maybe 500 sq ft in a huge store). The fly tying area is continuously out of stock on key items. On the plus side, they welcome fly tying demos and open their meeting area to our local club for fly tying classes.
I worked retail for 20 years or so, and I can tell you that while retail sellers often think they can tell the difference, they're just as often wrong. Me, I'm an impulse buyer; may not be looking for anything in particular, but if I see something I want, I'll buy it. Also, I'll often pick up a few things just because I'm in the mood to buy something. In any case, a simple "How ya doin'; anything I can help you with?" is pretty much required in my opinion. If I say no, just leave me alone. And if I don't get at least a greeting I'd have to REALLY want something to buy anything from a person who won't put out any more effort than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Jesse
Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave E
For fly-tying J Stockard, a sponsor here, has won my heart. Their responses have been excellent. They ship quickly and have accurate order fulfillment. They let you know what is back-ordered. They have a good selection and excellent prices, every day. They also have sales. I am fond of Cabela's and BPS, but I have become a J Stockard fan.
I must admit that I have never ordered from BPS, since they have a store so close to me. I still do business there. Cabela's has good customer service and I have no complaint. It is just the J Stockard is better in that they are faster and cheaper and at least as likely to have what I want. Cabela's seems to have made decisions to rationalize based on volume, and thus no longer offer some items which I am looking for. J Stockard carries an excellent selection in a lot of the things I want. I'll still happily do business with BPS and Cabela's, but when I'm looking to put together a mail order for fly-tying materials, I go to J Stockard first then fill in with Cabela's rather than going to Cabela's first then filling in elsewhere. To be fair, a part of that decision is that I have grown tired of having to sharpen Mustad hooks before I use them. I'm even more tired of losing fish to dull hooks. Instead, I'll spend more and buy other brands and J. Stockard has a good selection of barbless hooks from other brands.
And no, I don't work for them or have any financial interest in them other than Satisfied Customer (tm)
:)
Regards,
Ed
I go with Cabela's for a few things. I was in the DesMoines BAss Pro one time.
Went tot he counter to askfor help finding someting.
Was told to wait, becasue he was talking to his friends,not about the store goods.
Walked out and have not been back.
Rick
My mistake Ed,Quote:
Originally Posted by EdD
I was under the impression that we were speaking of shops that we could frequent in person based on this threads original post, having to do with a Cabela's coming to his area and possible employment opportunities. From there, the thread as I read it, was becoming a popularity contest for the megalithic, walk-in traffic retailers. So I cast my vote too, based on those that I visit.
Hey J. Stockard can be a great resource and was one of my trusted on-line sources, ( could be again someday ) but they're not exactly a full service fly shop / pro shop. In fact I got admonished on this very site by a well known member, for suggesting them as a source to others, some months before they became a sponsor here.
It's CrAzY how attitudes can turn around, with the flow of dough.
:cool:
Thanks buddy, Dave
I live about 25 min from the Michigan. Istop by there occasionally just because I'm in the area and sometimes they have an OK deal on something. I was in there last Spring and there was a obvious new fly fisherman looking for stuff. no sales person around so I end up helping him out as best I can. finally after about 30 min a sales person shows up and asks if he can help. customer says no this other guy got me. then the sales person says to me "looks like you know more than me. wanna' work here" .
Exactly the opposite opinion here. All along the Gulf coast and in Florida the BPS all have a White River fly shop and a larger collection of equipment and tying materials than Cabela's. Can't say for stores above I-10, but I've been to every store from Houston to Islamorada.
So far the one in Hartford, CT is doing OK. What you have to monitor is the progressive emphasis on clothing with a continuous reduction in the real sporting hardware. Without going into details, all I have to point out is the history of Orvis and L.L. Bean.
Just follow the money .:mad:
There was a time when Abercrombe & Fitch was where you went to buy sporting goods, not heroin chic clothes for teenagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Kunz
Yeah, we have one of those here. Walked through once; big mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by PA Dave