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cabela's
maybe I should have posted this question to a new thread.
does anyone else have any experience with cabelas rods other than bowmaker1. Do their rods performance match that of the top brands? Soup says the blanks of the FT models are the same as the Loomis GL3. Does anyone else know if their other models are also Loomis or perhaps another top brand blank? If you can save $ buying the same rod, get a nice warranty (25yrs), and have the same rod regardless of the name(since fish can't read anyways) should I buy one? Any praise or gripes from you with cabelas?
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[url=http://www.boycottcabelas.com/:df032]http://www.boycottcabelas.com/[/url:df032]
Just one more reason not to shop there. Found it today while researching something. Cabela's is kind of like Wal Mart and I prefer not to support them, of course I have a local fly shop that takes care of me.
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Wow! Sounds like EVERYONE was out to get that guy!
Jim
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thats what is strange about it..a police officer with nothing better to do, a person passing out leaflets, impounded and towed car, an attorney, droped ticket, sounds like a new drama tv show........I dont buy it
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I have their Stowaway and Stowaway-7 rods, like them both and consider them a great value.
As for the boycott, I was surprised so I Googled it. One guy got terminated after publicity about his distributing literature from the extreme right of the political spectrum. There have been no facts offered as to why he was terminated --whether it was related to his literature or not. It seems like a pretty slim basis for a boycott.
I have no financial interest in Cabela's, don't know anybody who works there, etc., etc. But, sorry, it just doesn't seem fair to me to pass along a link to a boycott like this without checking it out more.
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I like there rods and I buy some of there other stuff like camping supplies and such from them and they have Great Customer Service IMHO. When you don't have a lot to choose from then you have to do with what you to use I have a 3 forks combo 3 wt and to me it fishes as good as other rods I've fished with and plan to get at least 2 more one for the wife and 1 for my boy. Then I hope I'll be living in AR. By then and start trying Global Dorber rods. Just my 2 cents. Later Matt one last thing it's up to you on what you by and what you use who cares what the other folks fishing are using as long as your happy with your equipment thats all that matters. As I started off with a 20.00 martin outfit that was a combo unit that had backing a wt/f 6 wt line and leader and few flies. I still fish with it every now and then and the wife likes to use it and I use to think everyone was checking my stuff out why fishing then I came to just say hell with them I like it and I'm the one pulling more fish in then them so can't be that bad. Later Matt
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To each there own !
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I appreciate the responses. I agree it's great to support the local fly shop, and I do, but for some of us that like to stretch our dollar as much as possible I don't mind shopping cabelas. The cost of shipping is less than the sales tax I would pay...Putting aside everyone's political stance...how does the perfomance of cabelas fly rods compare to the name brands. how bout their reels?
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The big brown truck just stopped by my house yesterday. That was the last delivery it will be making from Cabela's for me. The nearest fly shop to me is 1 1/2 hrs each way so I find it necessary to mail order. But I am a little (maybe alot) right of center and I refuse to support a company that acts in this manner.
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Was going to add something else then decided to just bite my toung and say no more as I belive there is more to the story then what is posted on that website! Later Matt
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To each there own !
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I for one would give up doing business with a company I have dealt with, and been happy with, for 30 years, based on something I read on the internet. We all know anything found on a website is the gospel truth.
Just a side note: I heard on NPR the other day that if Wal-Mart was a country, it would be China's eighth-largest trading partner. Something to think about.
Rob, I have had no problem with Cabelas equipment in the past. I have a couple of their rods and they cast just fine. Even if a brand-name outfit makes their blanks, the rod you get will NOT be the same rod you buy from that company. If you want a Loomis rod, buy a Loomis rod. Labels do not catch fish, they catch people.
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I think I mentioned in another thread that I have a cabela's pt 2wt that I've fished hard over the past five years or so. it is a fine fishing and casting tool. I would say that the reel seat leaves much to be desired. nonetheless, I'm very pleased w/ its performance.
mgj
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Benjo,
You sure like to bash Cabelas. I guess you didnt learn from your last post about Cabelas. That some of us like Cabelas very much, and will continue to shop there. Its going to take more than them firing one person to change my mind. Besides maybe he was one of the incompetent sales people that you complained about in your other Cabelas post. Would it make it ok then?
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Fly shops are great but when it came to equip my classes Cabela's rods have been thru some ruff handling the past year. Over 100 scouts and grade school kids. I also use their blanks in rod building. Check the blank price to the finished rod in the catalog. I also would love to hear Cabela's side of the story--to me there must be more to it. Companies dont fire people for ones political views away from work. Around the office would be a problem.
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Bill
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The ft's are as if not better than anyother "highend" rod out there...1 guy got mad cause he lost his job and blames it on this..prolly not even remotely the cause of his termination,Just another person trying to use the court system to get rich..I've been a very happy custmoer of Cabela's for a very long time..Where else can you buy a Bamboo rod blank fish it for 6 mo. have the tip break,call em up and ask how to get in touch with Sharpes so you can buy a new tip section...Only to have the service dept. lookup how long you've had the purchase and have you strip all your hardware and send it back for a free no q's replacement???????????....Jim & Dick Cabela have my patronage for life!!!!
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"Wish ya great fishing"
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That is what I was going to say there is probably more to the store then is out right now. And time will tell what is really up. People get fired from there jobs all the time for a lot less and there are alot of them out there you never here anything about. I say the web is the best way to get something going rather it's true or false. I'll keep shopping there if they fire have the store if they went something like non smoking and a bunch was in the parking lot smoking. It's there rules and I still say this person has probably done something on store grounds sometime to lead to this. IMHO. Later Matt
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To each there own !
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I am saddened by the fact that any of you would believe a story on a website that gives no author's names, no supporting information, no newspaper references, or the name of the organiztion behind this.
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FYI - the backer of the boycott site appears to be the National Alliance which, according to the "third world" brochure on that site, is "An organization of Whites who aren't afraid to speak up for our race".
All the patriot talk is the big tip off.
**note - this is not an attempt to start a First Amendment debate - I just thought this info should be disclosed.**
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so where is the empirical research data on this anti-cabelas website?
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I have their 5wt Stowaway rod and love it. I got it as a combo and the reel malfunctioned after a year, but when I contacted them they sent me a new one even before I returned the old reel. Good solid product and great customer service.
I agree with "bluehackle" 100%. Names, dates, PROOF????
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I have a Cabelas PT 7' 3wt. I really like it. It is a moderate action and is plenty forgiving. It can still step up and put some line out there when needed. Great small stream rod which is what it is used for. I had two Cabelas reels. A Drake, which I still have, is a decent reel and has served me well. It is a little on the heavy side. Although I didn't notice it until I bought a nicer reel. I had a Cahill that I lost out of my pack and don't miss it at all. It was cheap looking, acting and feeling. I don't like their fly line at all.
As stated before their customer service is usually top notch. The few times I've had a need to contact them they went out of their way to make it right.
Buna
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I own alot of Cabela's gear and am very pleased with it and the company. I am not about to boycott Cabela's on some flim flam inter net story.
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I do not own any of their rods but do have 3 of their Prestige reels and have been very happy with their performance. Very smooth and quiet reels and they have not given me any problems so far. When I started teaching the Beginner's Fly Tying classes at the local 2 year college here I contacted Bass Pro and Cabelas and sent them the literature from the college offering the classes to show proof that the classes were being offered and that I was the instructor and was furnishing all material and equipment at my own expense, Bass Pro offered no assistance (and they have a store 79 miles away)and Cabelas sent me a box containing tying material and 8 of their wooden box kits containing the vises and all hand tools needed to tie flies. I have been a customer of their's for several years and they are top notch people to deal with and I think their fly tying material is of very good quality.(my own opinion) As far as the boycott goes, I will not honor it. There is always 2 sides to all stories and I need both sides to form an opinion. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Warren
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Don't believe everything you read on a website... except this. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/wink.gif
Will
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I have Drake reel on my 3 weight. I love it.
I don't know a damn thing about their rods, but I have been through the Kansas City store twice while on some trips and I have always found the salespeople in the fly fishing section to be enormously helpful and knowledgable. Bass Pro Shops on the other hand...
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I buy what I can afford. If it says "Made in the USA," that's great. If it say Made in China, Korea, Taiwan or whatever, that's fine too. My wages are made in the USA, but I can't afford products made in the USA. Who'se fault is that. Where are the unions? What did Reagan think he was accomplishing when he busted the Air Traffic Contoller's Union (PATCO). I buy from Cabela's because they have the products I can afford. I buy from Walmart too, for the same reasons. It is a complicated, tight woven mess right now, but I wonder; How much would gas cost now if our presidents name was Kerry?
This thread should probably go to "Sound Off" just about now. What say JC?
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A free gift waits for those who ask.
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Lotech Joe
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I work for Gander Mtn in the flyshop but i have fished some of Cabelas rods and have been thoroughly satisfied with the. The PT is sweet so is the Clear Creek. I can tell you this thought, Ganders Guide Series flyrods are made by Albright flyrods and carry a pretty much lifetime warranty, So does Cabelas if it has their name on they will replace it for life, i would think that they would be having a major manufacture make the rods. So chances are if your worried about quality i wouldnt be. There rods along with Bass Pros are great. Try one out you might be surprised, with how they perform.
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Anyone who knows anything about HR and the legal system can tell you that your rights in the workplace or associated with the workplace are not the ideals espoused by that website. Like it or not you cannot say or do as you please if it effects your job, co-workers or the company's interests.
That being said; there is nothing like a good Wal*Mart or Cabela's bashing that makes me want to go out spend some of my money at their stores. I give my business to those who give me the best value and best service. My local fly shops do neither.
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A portion of the population in this country can not stand success and tries to distroy it. Be it a finger in your chili, to much stuff made in China, lead tainted glasses at Micky D's or the big meany that stomped on someones freedom of speach.
The reason Wally's, Cabela's and Microsoft are so successful is they do their job better than anyone else. To my mind the ability to achieve and the freedom to do it is what makes this country great.
When Cabela's stops offering me quality products at good prices I will quit doing business with them. Until that time I hope the Cabela brothers become filthy rich, they deserve it.
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I just looked at the boycott page & letter, just out of curiosity. Struck me funny that there is a noticeable lack of detail in the description of events, except in referring to "our patriot", "hostile hispanic", & the paper being "slammed down" in front of him. To me it adds up to ZERO credibility for our "victim". I would like to know how many of us (me included) have lost jobs & walked away happy? I guess it's how you handle it & move on with life.
I have personally never done business with Cabelas due to a number of good flyshops being near me, however, based on the overwhelming number of positive comments I've heard here & elsewhere, I do plan on visiting one of their stores & I'm sure I will make some purchases.
Mike
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I have tons of stuff from Cabela's and will have more. I live 4 or 5 hours drive from Cabela's stores and make the drive at least once or twice a year because I enjoy the stores. I was in the new Bass Pro store at Columbia Mo. this weekend and not to put them down, but I just prefer the Cabela's stores. I like the way things are displayed and the wildlife mounts, and the stores just seem so much lighter and brighter to me. Virtualy all my fly fishing gear is from Cabela's from rods to wadders and I feel I have been treated well and received value for my dollars. I have 3 of the Three Forks combos, a PT combo, and the new LST combo and like them all. I use the Three Forks 3 wgt the most for bluegills and such almost every day on lunch hour and have caught upto 4# bass and 6# catfish and had a ball doing it. The PT is the most expensive of the bunch and gets used the least proabally because it is a 8'6" 5wgt and feels kind of heavy and clunky after useing the 3wgts so much. I don't have any really local fly shops here in southern Iowa so Cabela's is a good thing for me and will continue to be so.
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Buzz, your post was as refreshing as a breath of clear mountain air. And what a fitting hometown!
Jim
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I buy at my local fly shop and I buy at Cabelas. I will continue to buy at both. Cabelas service and return policy are both excellent.
This thread made me curious about this employee that was alledgedly mistreated so I cruised through the boycottcabela's website. The material I saw there was blatantly racist. It is no wonder the employee was fired. Cabela's has a diverse customer base. I don't own the newer Cabela's fly rods but I did own older models that I found very satisfactory. Eventually I broke them and replaced them with higher end rods.
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I'm not going to delete my post but I agree with some of you that there are some racist undertones to that link. I apologise, I only glanced at it in passing.
I will continue to buy locally and support my local economy while providing local jobs, all while trying hard to buy products that are made in this country, thus providing more jobs. I can keep my right to complain about the dollar weakening in the world market. I think supporting US business is more of a responsibility than the luxury that many of you take it to be, and I probably don't make any more money than most of you.
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I have and will continue to use Cabelas because of what I think is outstanding customer support and a product that I think I can afford and am satisfied with. I hope more folks do boycott them. I get tired of trying to order something from Cabelas and see it's on back order. So all you disenchanted folks... boycott away. That means more products for me to choose from.
Mike
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There is no greater fan of flyfishing than the worm.
Patrick McManus
[This message has been edited by maddog48 (edited 21 April 2005).]
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Benjo, I for one respect your position, and admire you for taking action on your beliefs.
I just take what I consider to be a more "holistic" view of the world. We are blessed with abundant talent, resources, infrastructure and most importantly, individual and for the most part, market freedom. We are masters of innovation. I trust completely in what we used to call Yankee ingenuity.
It is true that many of "our" former jobs have been displaced. I just don't think that foretells the end of America as we know it. We have a rich history of working our way through massive changes in market structure. Agrarian to cottage. Cottage to factory. Factory to assembly line. Assembly line to computers and robotics.
Each time, a generation of people was up heaved, displaced and forced to look at their lives anew. Each time, the result was a spurt of growth and prosperity. The history of the last century tells us we can survive complete market collapse, tool up for all out war, rebuild half the world, play peacekeeper to the rest of the world, and still find a way to create a vibrant expanding economy.
We will get our footing on this new world stage. And the relative success of our trading partners will create markets not yet envisioned nor tapped.
Jim
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The reason that some of you are reading into the racial undertones of the boycott cabela's website is that it was created by the National Alliance (link: [url=http://www.natall.com/adv/2003/09-27-03.html:159bc]Interview with Roger Williams, the Western States Regional Coordinator for the National Alliance[/url:159bc]
Oh, and here's the National Alliance's statement of belief:
We see ourselves as a part of Nature, subject to Nature's law. We recognize the inequalities which arise as natural consequences of the evolutionary process and which are essential to progress in every sphere of life. We accept our responsibilities as Aryan men and women to strive for the advancement of our race in the service of Life, and to be the fittest instruments for that purpose that we can be.
(link=[url=http://www.natall.com/what-is-na/na1.html#summary:159bc]Summary of belief of NA[/url:159bc]
I shop at Cabela's, as well as my local flyshop. The people that are saying right on to the boycottCabelas website are being used as dupes by the Aryan nation.
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We have just about beat this Cabela horse to death here before ...
But, once again - I have been one of Cabela's satisfied customers for some years now. They flat out stand behind anything they sell and will go to some lengths to make it right, and no doubt have given customers the benefit of the doubt when maybe it was way beyond reason to do so. I like doing business with the little guy, too, and try to do so whenever possible, except when it's really impractical and beyond common sense. But whoever it is I'm spending my hard earned money with, when they don't appreciate my business, look for me to be going somewhere else ... be that the independent corner grocery store, Cabelas, the local fly shop or Wal-Mart.
When we do our steelhead and salmon fishing run up to Michigan, always plan a stop at the Cabelas Dundee, Michigan store; I can spend a whole day in there! Last time enroute we were delayed and not realizing that they closed early on a Sunday, we got there just as they were about to lock the doors. We were invited to pull our camper around to the back parking lot and spend the night there; and we did! Next morning had coffee and a sweet roll in the Cabelas little sandwich shop they have there on the second floor, then shopped around and got what we needed and were on the road shortly thereafter. I like being treated right.
One point I'd like to make about my state and employment laws; here you can be terminated by your employer, legally, for no other reason than they (the employer) simply does not like you. And I can quit and go somewhere else if I don't like them. I think it's a two way street - I expect the company I work for to be ethical and honorable in their business dealings and with their employees; and they have the right to expect the same from me.
Dale
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Good observation Hex! The Naational Alliance does support the Aryan race. I have not been to the site nor the one referenced about the Cabela's bashing. However, the National Alliance has been in the national news a number of times regarding their views
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Shop around, pay attention to details. This product from harbor freight ...
[url=http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=39168:af65c]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=39168[/url:af65c]
... sells for $39.99 and is very often on sale for $19.99.
Cabela's sells the same product with the same 350# load limit ...
[url=http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/purchase/products-found.jhtml?_requestid=20434:af65c]http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/purchase/products-found.jhtml?_requestid=20434[/url:af65c]
... for OVER $100.00.
You can "make those Cabela brothers rich" if you want to but I'm willing to wager these are the exact same products manufactured in the same Chinese factory.
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Benjo
Well said. That's the satisfaction that I get every time I buy from Cabelas. Supporting an American company, which provides American jobs that helps the American econonmy. I think allot of companies would love to position themselves to the level that Cabelas has.