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How to Renew a Vise
Okay, I've a problem and maybe some of you can help out. The midge head on my Thompson has a tiny chip which doesn't effect the vises ability to hold say size 20 and larger. However, it continuously spits sizes 26 and smaller. Is there a way to grind down the inside of the jaws or get them more pointed so these tiny hooks can hold better?
Also, I have a tiny 'midge head', the kind you insert into the jaws of a vise. It has a very pointed tip for the tiny hooks but the collet doesn't close the jaw tips enough to hold the same tiny hooks. Any advice on how to fix that?
Not looking for suggestions leading to a Renzetti, Regal midge, HMH, etc. Just looking for potential answers to the questions I posed.
Thanks.
Allan
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Allan;
Try filing the offending area flush so both 1/2's match up again.
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go get yerself a peak.
or a renzetti.
you know I'm kidding.
right?
mgj
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Allan,
I'm not really aquainted with that preticular vise,But you need to be very vigulant in how you try and repair those jaws...on some like the Dyna Kings...it is very hard as you must remove the same amount of material much farther back the jaws or they'll not close properly...if this vise is more like the Griffin type two piece...pretty simple fix..those you can place sand paper on glass and work both sides down till you meet the depth of that chip, Then buff'em on really fine sand paper to smooth...
I have those cheap midge jaws you mention too...and I think they were made in pakistan...Mine are as worthless as yours...waste of my money...but...this is how we learn...Good luck...try getting in touch with thompson...they might be your best help!
Would'nt hurt to follow Mikey's advise either....Not saying anything bad about Dyna King...but I'd not go that same route if givin the oppertunity again...Guy's.....Please don't swap my email with death threats...lol...PLEASE!
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[This message has been edited by billknepp (edited 26 November 2005).]
[This message has been edited by billknepp (edited 26 November 2005).]
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Had the same exact problem!put the vise in my shop vise and re-worked the jaws with a file, a little fine sandpaper, a little polishing compound and good as new
G
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Do what G-man said to...
And DON"T use a Dremmel or power grinder-thingie...
Take it slow and by hand.
Speaking from experience as the king of over-dremmeling things.
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There is a fine line between fly fishing and standing in a river waving a stick, and YOU SIR have crossed that line!
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Allan,
Don't even TRY modifying the jaws on a vise. It will not be worth the effort. Something tells me you likely already know this. If you try it you'll find out fast enough.
Any quality set of jaws are at the very least "case hardened" and any mod. will result in "soft" jaws. Some may even be tool steel and hard enough that a file would skid anyway.
Pony up fer a new set of jaws (or vise) you, you cheap ol' bugger you....*BG*....
(Running and ducking....)
Jeremy....who is certainly kidding here. (Welllll....):-))
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the advice. You too Jeremy(-;
Allan
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Thompson still replaces jaws, I will try to get you a e-mail that works.
Joe Fox
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If your jaws are hardened the hardened area will not be more than 6 thou thick (0.006"). If you start with an abrasive that is how much you are playing with. But the hardness will not be as great 4 thou in as it is at the surface. If the chip is more than a couple of thou deep then it is new jaws time.
I have one vice on which the jaws are not hardened. This isn't a problem if you don't mind the hook moving a little. (Contrary to popular opinion the hook does not have to be held totally rigid.) This though is not the way most vices are made these days.
Cheers,
Alan.
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