Does it make sense to underline rod if one is going to to use heavy flies?
Or better to go to heavier rod and line? That could mean using a rod "over gunned" for the target fish?
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Does it make sense to underline rod if one is going to to use heavy flies?
Or better to go to heavier rod and line? That could mean using a rod "over gunned" for the target fish?
Dear ducksterman,
I think it makes more sense to use a leader that is of the proper size and construction for the flies you are using.
Many people attempt to fish large, bulky, heavy flies on the same leaders they use for fishing small dry flies. Trying to cast a rig like that is a recipe for disaster. If you want to fish a size 2 streamer fish a 2X leader along with it and casting will be much easier.
Best Wishes,
Avalon :D
Avalon...I'm thinking of how it effects the rod loading...trying to get away from the big loops I guess....
Dear ducksterman,
I think those big loops are often a function of the wrong leader myself. You have to open things up to try to keep time when your leader can't handle the fly you are trying to cast. Shorter, stouter, and stiffer leaders seem to help me immensely.
If you are tossing heavily weighted stuff with split shot I don't think there is an easy way to make nice crisp loops. If somebody out there knows how I'm willing to listen.
Best Wishes,
Avalon :D
ducksterman:
The heavier the line, the heavier the fly it will handle. I would think if you underline the rod, you'll actually find you have even less control over your loops. And also, as previously mentioned, your leader should be heavy enough to cope with the weight of the fly.
Larry Compton :)
Could it work this way?
Underline...use a fly that brings the overall weight of line and fly about to a weight that the rod is designed for....then the heavier and shorter the leader the better it would handle?????????
Over rod. Shouldnt the line always be what is doing the casting? If you are using the weight of the fly to cast isnt that the same thing as spin fishing? Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksterman
Ducksterman,
The 'weight' of the fly isn't part of what loads the rod when you are casting a fly line. The fly is following the line, not 'pulling' on the rod as it does with a spinning/casting rig.
The weight of a heavy fly on a light line can cause the loop to colaspe, as well as degrading other portions of the casting dynamics.
The proper progression in choosing the components of a fly outfit should be:
Decide what weight and size (wind resistance) flies you wish to cast (it doesn't matter what kind of or how big the fish are).
Choose the fly LINE that will efficiently handle the range of flies you wish to use. It's the weight of the LINE that determines what weight/size of fly that can be cast efficiently (the ROD has NO BEARING on this).
Choose a ROD that will cast the size of LINE you need to handle the size of fly that you intend to fish undeer the conditions that you'll likely face.
Choose a leader size and tippet weight that will effectively turn over the fly you've chosen to fish.
That's it.
All the rest is just hype.
Good Luck!
Buddy
Mike ...valid but I think since spin fishing doesn't cast the line it's more complicated...maybe :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeL
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Originally Posted by Buddy Sanders
Buddy...that's what I thought....your discussion is very clear and helps me understand....