Strength Rating

What is the general strength rating on these standard twisted thread things?

Oh ya, what happened to Normand and Cold? Did they get the boot? I'm sure Norm would know and be a jerk about just Googleing it and spelling.

Luckie

I'll let the Rocket Scientists weigh in on this one...

Brad

... would vary with the kind of thread used and the configuration, i.e how many strands were used in the tip end of the leader and how the tip end was finished.

For example, if the tip end has six strands of thread, that means there are three looped strands at the very end of the tip. That is the least number of strands in the leader and the given weak point.** Any strength rating would be measured at that point.

How that leader is finished at the tip end would also be significant. If a tip ring is incorporated before the leader is furled, there is a maximum of three strands of thread through the ring. If a shorb loop is used to finish the tip end, the loop itself will have six strands, but the loop will be held closed by three strands, but those three strands only have to take half the stress put on the shorb loop ( half the stress goes to the strands closing the loop and half the stress goes to the length of the leader towards the butt ).

However, it is my experience, and it does seem to be confirmed by some science, that the furling process makes the combined strength of the furled strands stronger than the combined strength of the same number of strands of the same material not furled.

So much for rocket science.:roll:

I use Danville 210 Flymaster Plus thread ( roughly equivalent to 3/0 thread ). The tip end of the leader has six strands, with three strands looped at the very tip end of the leader. A tip ring is incorporated before the furling starts so the finished leader has three twisted strands passing through the tip ring. That set up is strong enough to break off 2X 10# test tippet with no damage to the tip ring nor the leader.

John

** Unless it is a weight forward configuration.

So, luckie88, why the personal attacks out of the blue on some of our members? Based on what I just read, maybe its you who should get the boot...just sayin'. Thought we were all supposed to play nice. You didn't even wait for a response, just went right for the jugular. I think the mods ought to step in here and sort this out.

Kelly.

Being one of those rocket scientists i suppose i have to answer this one: Don't know, i don't make enough leaders to sacrifice some of them for testing purposes, which in my opinion is the only way to determine this. Anyway, they're stronger then my tippet.

Karel

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Originally Posted by kglissmeyer

...why the personal attacks out of the blue on some of our members? ...Kelly.

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... neither Cold nor Normand are members. If you check Normand's recent posts you will notice that he is shown as a "guest", and neither he nor Cold are shown on member list.

Maybe the moderators already have acted ?? Or maybe Cold and Normand just decided they didn't want to hang around here any more ??

John

Sorry, John, members or not, it wasn't very nice what luckie88 had to say. If any one of us has a question to ask or a comment to make, then make it, don't then tag on an attack to anyone - not nice.

Kelly.

Normand didn't play very nice either to me in some of my posts. So it was just a question and meant to add a little jab. Get over it! And I ask because I also noticed their posts had turned to Guest.

I fish the flats and bluewater only. I discovered twisted mono leaders about 3 years ago when a guide friend of my from California sent me a couple he had made. It was love at first cast. After using his for a while I decided to try my hand at it. First, I use only 20# mono, usually Stren, Trilene or Berkley but the brand really does not make any difference. Stretch out 21 feet of mono and then double it to make your first right hand twist. When you finish wif the first section, you will have a twisted mono leader about 10 feet long with an approximate 35# stress/break rating. Tie off the tag ends using a surgeons loop. I now fold the line over itself to about mid point and start my second twist, a left hand twist with another surgeons loop at the finish point. The leader is now a 70# graduating down to a 35# leader. On the 35# end I tie a perfection loop and on the 70# end I use the loop that is in the line. Then I loop in my tippit or shock leader to the 35# end. I use the leaders for everything from Bonefish to Tarpon to Dorado and have never had a failure.