Just what is the Federation of FF's?
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Just what is the Federation of FF's?
I'm sorry.... i understand it's a conservation education group....I was more interested in how say they compare to Trout UnLtd.....I thought I heard the FFF lambasted on this board....just want the skinny....that's all....
Both Trout Unlimited (TU) and the Federation of Fly Fishers (FFF) have local groups. There are good and bad groups in both. TU spends of greater part of its dues sueing States or the Federal Government to protect streams, watersheds, remove dams etc. From that point it perhaps is the most actively involved in conservation. TU local groups are usually very active in restoring local waters.
The 'slams' on this board are related to the Certified Casting Instuctor program of FFF.
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LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL
I will say again what I posted on the subject of fishing guides. "Sometimes the ink is not worth the paper it is printed on."
Just because you can demonstrate the steps needed to get a certificate for fly casting instructor, it will not make you a good teacher. Teachers are born not made by attendance and test scores.
[This message has been edited by Parnelli (edited 06 March 2002).]
I belong to both TU and FFF, and basically the difference is that TU is concenerned with cold water fisheries and FFF deals with both cold and warm water fisheries. I don't know to much about what goes on at the national level, but I do know that our local chapter is involved in teaching newcomers to the sport about fly fishing and tying. We are also involved in stream restoration and clean-up projects, here in Oklahoma as well as in Arkansas and Missouri. We have also donated money to the Three Dollar Bridge project and others in western states.
Steve Crosby
Sec.- Tulsa Fly Fishers
My club is affiliated with FFF here in Arizona. I think that the activity varies a bit from area to area. FFF has contributed good solid cash to some fishery improvement projects here in Arizona, so I imagine they do the same elsewhere. As mentioned above, TU seems to be more of a watchdog. However, having said that, I've heard that in Richmond, VA for instance, the local TU chapter is the only group that holds monthly meetings for fly fishers. (Could be misinformed?)
If you're looking for a group that you can interact with on a very regular basis and find folks that will impart knowledge, fish with you, cheer you up when you get skunked, etc. look for a local fly club that meets regularly....check the brochures out in the local fly shops.
Good luck.
Silvertop
Silvertop: "If you're looking for a group that you can interact with on a very regular basis and find folks that will impart knowledge, fish with you, cheer you up when you get skunked, etc" look no farther than Fly Angler's Online. Okay three out-of-four, ain't too bad. You figure which one don't match up....
I am a board member of our local FFF affiliated club,started by 6 people and in 6 years we have grown to 100. If you want to find out what we stand for and do for ffishing you should visit the FFF web site. [url=http://www.fedflyfishers.org:b89e7]www.fedflyfishers.org[/url:b89e7] Mine is under Indiana "The Three Rivers Fly Fishers." The FFF has clubs all over the world. I doubt TU can say the same. You name it and we do it for fly fishing, stream clean up,teaching everything from fly tying in the schools to rod building. Our latest is tying every Monday evening for new tyers(we get new members that way). Name speakers each month. The Great Lakes Council(20 clubs in Ind Ohio & Mich) hosts a large fly tying shows with 100 of the best tiers. Some on this forum wrote about certified casting instucters. They are the best I can vouch for that with two friends that have passed the strict tests. The TU tried to start a club in Indiana. Go to the FFF web site, you might like us and start your own local club.
TU is dedicated to the conservation of cold water fisheries most notably trout water. It is not a fly fishing organization, although many members are certainly are fly fishers. FFF is an organization dedicated entirely to fly fishing, whether it be cold, warm or salt waters. TU has more of a conservation slant while FFF is more of a fishing club although FFF cetainly gets involved w/ conservation issues. I belong to both and they each serve an important function and are both good organizations. Check out your local chapters and go to few meetings to get a feel for what meets your needs best. I'm sure local chapters vary widely around the country.
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Ron M
William, if you do indeed know two excelent casting instructiors, your to be envied. However would not these folks be casting instructiors with or with the title? I know were my money would be on that bet. of course they would. All true teachers teach because they need to share, its part of their makeup,its part of what you admire in them. the fact that they are FFF certified, goes to the longing to be a part of something larger than themselves,to a hope that they will further learn and pass on that knoweldge. There in lies the fustration youve seen come from some of us here. That a program that was inocently started to further provide information to thoes who would carry it to them that could benifit. Has become something more identified with greed and ego, than the promotion of the skill refinment it takes to fully injoy the flyfishing experence is sad. I do not utter these words lightly, but with a hope that someday the FFF program will become the vehicle,by which any worthy instructior can point to with pride,and say "I am part of something greater than myself." with sincere hope Capt. Paul Darby