Brad;
That is such a simple solution to a very common problem. Does that really stiffen it up? How did you gather the data to prove this was the answer?
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Brad;
That is such a simple solution to a very common problem. Does that really stiffen it up? How did you gather the data to prove this was the answer?
Jack,
Because I tried Viagra, and it not work ;) .
Really, I just thought through the problem. Mono is stiffer than thread. I thought I would try just one pass of mono, and it worked great! I have tried the varnish route(several brands) and it its messy to apply and takes a while to dry. In general, it was a PITA. Adding the mono adds about 2 minutes to the furling time, and it works....why try to re-invent nthe wheel??
Brad
I'm with Brad (aka kaboom) on this one. I add a single strand of mono through my leaders to help give them a little more umph. works well with the larger flies as well. Also as to what age sage says is true as well. The mono mixed with my ultra fine thread helps make the leader a bit stronger at the tip end as well. Kinda like adding a strand of braided line for extra strong leaders. For ultra fine dries though nothing beats a straight thread leader in presentation. Can't find a knotted or traditional leader that does it as nice as a furled thread leader!
Cheers,
Brandon
To elaborate on my earlier post (#13), as I fish almost exclusively today for large mouth bass and 'bream' in weed/'stickup' infested waters and use deer hair and balsa/cork bodied popping bugs up to 1/0, I definitely prefer a slightly stiff leader. I also prefer 6ft leaders for my fishing. After much 'playing around', I finally settled on Guetermann "Sew All" thread. It is a polyester, and is equivalent to UNI 3/0 in both it's diameter and tensile strength; plus, it is availabel at al JoAnn's Fabrics and Craft stores. I can get a very decent leader with this material and a 10% reduction furling as Skip Shorb, my mentor, does. However, when I started playing around using the very basic techniques for rope laying, i.e., using a top, letting the tippet end twist using a ball bearing barrel swivel, and furling and twisting (redundant terms) in one operation, I found that I get precisely what I want with a 20% reduction. This leader handles the big 'bugs quite well, and is a great 'wind-cutter'. It also handles #8 bugs with equal aplomb.
Just for "grins', when I started 'playing' with this method, I did a 2-strand 'rope' using 20# braided dacron backing, and furled to a 30% reduction. I have a beautiful 2-strand rope that can stand on it's own! There is one caveat to using this technique: getting the strrands furled all the way to the hooks is next to impossible to do unless you add "extenders" to the hooks and attach the butt end loops to these at the outset.
There is one caveat to using this technique: getting the strrands furled all the way to the hooks is next to impossible to do unless you add "extenders" to the hooks and attach the butt end loops to these at the outset.
Not really...do it all the time. Just need to know what you are doing.
Brad
I don't see the problem of getting to the end using the RLT, as I have seen your set up.
Brandon
Kaboom...
CONGRATULATIONS! I think I DO know what I am doing! I did NOT say it was impossible! My comment was made for the benefit of those who have no familiarity with rope making and tops; or their use.
FYI, I do know what I am doing, and I definitely know the solution to the problem. For your edification, there are two other respected members here, both of whom you know and one of whom you have had personal correspondence with on certain aspects of this matter, and who also had the problem of getting a tight furl all the way to the butt end. I take full responsibility for coming up with the extender idea, which does work quite well, thank you. No muss; no fuss! The other two have adopted that approach.
I am fully cognizant of how to solve the situation in the simplest possible way; but, that too has it's own problems that many will not figure out how to circumvent. It all has to do with top size. As it was much simpler, and faster, to add the extenders, I opted to go this route. It was one of the other two who came up with the type top that I use, and it was very fast and simple to put together. Thus, what I spoke to is the collective results of the three of us tackling the same problems at the same time, and our 'common' solution.
Cheers!
Frank
Brandon...
As you have only seen photos of my board, I fail to see how you can make the statement you did without actually seeing it in operation with the components that I use. I feel quite confident that if you were to give it a try on my board, you would definitely change your position.
Absent the extenders, and with the top that I use, I still have a good three inches of butt end to furl when the top comes to a dead stop against my furling hooks! Yes, it can be furled, but it is sloppy as all get out! I know at least one, and possible two, fellow furlers who would unequivocally confirm that statement.
Cheers,
Frank
Frank
You will have to speak slower, and use smaller words for me to understand you.
As for finishing the furl after taking the leafer off of the hooks, simply twist the leader with your thumb and index finger until the leader is finished. Simple....
No one has appointed you God of the furlers and you seem to add nothing to any discussion but trying to prove how superior you are to everyone else. I will now take my leave and wish all of you good luck in your furling.
Buy the way, I probably furled more leaders this past weekend than you have done in your lifetime, I really do know what I am doing!!
Good Day Sir
Ok, we do not need to have a good thread trashed.
Need I say more?