Simple Knot in "recent" post

I remember there was a thread here within the past two months that was either about a simple knot for tying the fly on or it was within a thread that this knot came up and I cannot find it even using the search engine (I must not be using the right keyword or something). I thought it was called "Bob's knot" or "Bill's knot" or something like that. Anyway, I thought I did a simple google search for it, at the time, and came up with a site or two that had illustrations of that knot. Now, I can't remember what it was called and I would like to pull it up again for a refresher, but I can't remember the darn name of the knot, now (needless to say "bob's knot" or "bill's knot" does not come up with any useable hits). Anyone remember this knot? Even just the correct name will give me what I need to do a google search for it.

TIA,
Paul

Davy's Knot.


Davy Wotten

Maybe here?
[url=http://www.nicoh.com/mcclmatt/flyfish/Resources/pitzen.html:22914]http://www.nicoh.com/mcclmatt/flyfish/Resources/pitzen.html[/url:22914]

It probably is the Davey Wooten knot
Davey knot
It is some where on this page [url=http://www.itinerantangler.com/podcasts/video/:af7da]http://www.itinerantangler.com/podcasts/video/[/url:af7da]

Doing my own testing I have found it to be slightly better than the clinch knot and is as simple to tie.

However, you may want to use something like the orvis knot or the pitzen (also called the 16-20 knot) which my testing shows to be stronger.

Don't believe any of us on how good a knot is. A lot of it depends on your ability to tie it consistantly with the material you are using, the size of the hook. Do some of your own testing. It is easy and inexpensive but a little time consuming.

see this web page it has a link to another great article on testing knots and that fellows results
[url=http://www.westdenvertu.org/Documents/knottest.htm:af7da]www.westdenvertu.org/Documents/knottest.htm[/url:af7da]

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[This message has been edited by Scruffy Fly (edited 12 June 2006).]

Hey...!
[url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/knots/:92ec3]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/knots/[/url:92ec3]



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There's almost nothin' wrong with the first lie, it's the weight of all the others holdin' it up that gets ya'! - Tim

Thanks, the Davy knot it was. I knew it was a "simple" name, which is why I was hunting around Bill and Bob and such.

@ Scruffy, thanks for the info. on knots. Pretty much, I am looking for a quick and easy tied knot, while I am sure the pitzen may be stronger, the Davy's knot should be sufficient. We're talking about bass (the bass typically aren't large), BG and other WW species. I only discovered the Davy's knot recently and when I needed to tie it in the field, I found it to be quick and easy compared to other knots I have tied, but it was fairly fresh in my mind then and when I went out to the field again (after a month of not fishing), I had forgotton how to tie the knot, CRS syndrome you know. I had to resort back to the Palomar knot, which is the only easier knot that I have actually used in fishing. A bit of confession here, unfortunately the Palomar knot is not so convenient when fishing lures (yes, *lures*, oh the horror http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/wink.gif ). It works fine for hooks, jig heads and flies, but it is a real drag to have to keep the loop large enough to even get a small minnow lure through it. The Davy knot is almost as easy to tie as the Palomar, but I don't have to worry about trying to pass a lure through a loop and getting either myself or the line caught on a hook.

When it comes to fishing knots, I trust what others have found to work. I may test other knots if I find my knots starting to break and confirm that I am tying them correctly, however, that has not been the case, of course I have not caught very large fish, which if I were to, may change my mind about the knots I should be using.

Paul

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From _Finding_Nemo_

Gandalf

the orvis knot is a stronger knot and a little harder to tie than the davey knot. but if you do the davey knot you have 3/4ths of the orvis knot done already.

If you are going to take other peoples info:
I have tested the Davey Knot against the orvis knot and the orvis knot wins everytime. [url=http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/files/index.html:439a9]http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/files/index.html[/url:439a9]

I am not the only one that has tested the orvis knot to be stronger than most other knots.
[url=http://www.midcurrent.com/articles/gear/scheck_lastlink_1.aspx:439a9]http://www.midcurrent.com/articles/gear/scheck_lastlink_1.aspx[/url:439a9]

Scruffy,

Thank you again. I checked out your sites already and found some great info. there.

Thanks,
Paul

According to this here site, the knot I've been using for a very long time is the Uniknot, which I actually got out of some non-fly fishing book after getting fed up with clinch knots.

I used the Clinch knot and Improved Clinch knot for years because that's just what everybody seemed to use. They are both horrible knots. I don't mind losing a fish on a tippet snap, but there's nothing more frustrating than losing a fish and having that little "your knot slipped or broke" tail at the end of the line.

The Uniknot can be just as fast to tie as the clinch knot, and unlike the clinch, it cannot slip. I believe it to be stronger as well since it doesn't rely on compression to hold tight. Two of these knots together can also replace a blood knot (since the blood is simply two clinch knots), but you have to be slow when cinching it up.

I think that the six turns recommended in the diagram are a bit much though. For a small knot I use only three. For a bigger knot I use four. Never any more than that. (I'm one of those guys that's paranoid about tippet and knot size)