opinions from those who regularly buy online

I've submitted and order and recieved the paypal receipt on 7/28, From what I believe to be a decently well know fly tying whole sale merchant.I've since emailed this guy,and have recieved a couple back, the first stating that I'd have the order a week ago..that he had, Been waiting on out of stock items to arrive.

Well I sent yet another yesterday with the reply saying that, The order has been sent out and that I'd have it by mid week,He's not on the other side of the planet...I've ordered alot online or otherwise...and I'm getting a familiar feeling,Which is not good.

What I would like to know ,Is weather not any of you would keep giving this guy the benifet of the doubt.

And weather anyone has ever had to get ahold of paypal to take action on a purchase they made and never recieved the order...Possibly may come to that if this order has not arrived by say thursday....that's beyond the time frame givin to me...Iknow this is going to be the last I do biz with this man...
Saddly,It's where I heard of them, That really disapoints me....If this order is indeed the no show I fear it is going to be...

A post here, will be made,So this does not happen to any of you..Here is where I got wind of them..not this exact BB..but on the FT B Here...

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill

I'd say, see if it arrives by mid week...if it does, great, but I wouldn't order from him again. If it doesn't...start posting names, so the rest of us can be informed, and tell him you want a refund....and never order from him again.
(Plus, congarats on the new baby! What's her name? And when does she get to come home?)

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Trouts don't live in ugly places

Kewl...thought I was being paranoid!!!....

Thanks for asking of the Wee one as well, Betty, Her Name is Alessandra Joy,As to when she may come home...Shes in the NICU....and they have say of EVERYTHING....right down to weather we can hold her or not...(The wife has Twice)...I've not been so lucky.But Hopefully we will get everything put together on monday to be able to take our other three childeren to meet her,Tried yesterday,But appears we need all of their medical,Shot history for this to happen.
Well I must go the wife is trying to call for an update before she goes......I get to sit with the other three....come on monday morning...lol..I'll then have to work. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/frown.gif

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill




[This message has been edited by billknepp (edited 21 August 2005).]

Bill, ...

I'D say wait the mid week. If nothing arrives, ... ask the supplier to tell you how the package was sent. If it was Courrier, UPS, Special delivery etc, ... ask for the PO number that the transporter signed off on. Ask the supplier to "ping" the consignment # and e-mail or fax you the status of the package.

That'll usually get things rolling. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/wink.gif

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Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
[url=http://pages.videotron.com/fcch/:24b55]Fishing the Ste-Marguerite[/url:24b55]

Chris CA,
Thanks for the heads up..although I must say, It did not make me feel better... http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/wink.gif

Chris,
Thank you also,and I hope I don't need to do those things....

Must say I was some what sceptical when looking over this guys prices,Seemed to good to be true....And I think I should have taken that more to heart than I did...You just want to have faith in ppl...soupposedly this guy makes most of what he sells...???

Should I NOT...Get these items by thursday..I'll do more than name, Names...I'll post a link to the site as well...so all can SEE, What is to be avoided......I only been giving the benifit of doubt for one reason,He claims to be a Flyfisher,who is for the Flyfisher...I know a few of these type of ppl and I've yet to meet even ONE..who is not of utmost honesty and integrity...

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill

Bill,
If you don't get your order you should be able to recover the money through PayPal. I have done this once when I did not receive the CD's that I payed for. You have to wait 30 days from purchase date to file a complaint.
Steve

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"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went"-Will Rogers

Biot,
Again thanks,as I had'nt known of any details of a refunding of payments....Ty to all,as always,A most helpful bunch of ppl on this great site.....Best thing I ever did was become a member of it,and a friend of FAOL....Other than Fam & a few related Life indearing things....lol

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill

Hi Bill,
If it comes to that, I think that you will be happy with PayPal?s Resolution Center.
I have had to use it once. They will force the seller to prove that he really shipped you the item. If he can?t you will receive your money back. It does take quite a while though. If you want you can go on the PayPal site and view a tutorial on just how the resolution will be handled. It is very informative.
One thing that ?biot midge? stated: ?You have to wait 30 days from purchase date to file a complaint.? Is not quite accurate though. Actually you have to file a claim within 45 calendar days of the payment.

Duely noted DickM,
And thank you...


Bill

Not quite related, but nearly...

While ago I got scammed and some crooks got into my paypal account. Long story short now, but paypal were right on to it, in fact alerted me, and were extremely professional and very helpful.

I would chat with them if I were you.

About Paypal alerts: I'm sure they're excellent at it because I've got friends who have been alerted by them about problems. I've used Paypal hundreds of times with no problems at all, btw. But here's my main point:

Paypal does NOT ever send you an email alerting you to some problem and ask you to click a link to get into your account. Those emails show up in my inbox every single day. They are always scams. Never ever ever click anyone else's link to paypal. ALWAYS type in the address yourself into the address bar of your browser.

Thank you all,
For all the great info...
And I'll keep it all in mind and leave this thread ( I usually delete a thread after I feel all have gleamed from it what they might). Thankfully after a very long wait....Never had an order take this long to arrive.

It finially did today....and I have to admit,I've not seen $25.00 Go this far when purchasing Fly Tying material's In a good LONG while...As I told Fly Tyers Dungeon, In my email to let them know I recieved my order.

I'm Sorry to all,For being so paranoid, I have in the past had some bad experiences while buying online,And this seemed like familiar territory.

I won't say I won't order againin the future,and if anyone else were to,I'd have to say.
That you may want to allow themsome extra time for the shipping...with there prices...And the shear amount of material in each of their packages...I was suprised to say the least,Most places charge three times the money for half the amount of product..I can see how and why , they might have a hard time keeping up..If a good amount of ppl know of these things....But things are resolved...and I feel much better....

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill

Bill;
I've been following this thread with some interest as I do a lot of online shopping.
(Did break down and meet up with ohiotuber for a day at Cabela's in Dundee. $50.00 for gas but the trip was worth it!)
I get 10 or 12 requests a week to varify my Ebay or PayPal account. I have neither! I did a couple of years ago and when my credit card expired so did my accounts. Renewed the card but not the accounts. How many people get scammed into reporting all their information?!

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I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here!

Cactus AKA "Lucky Dog (Pirate Name)"

Good q, Jack,
As I've just recently opened my paypal account..I may have had one previously...I've never verified it...the only time I get askd to is when I'm in the site it's self...when they send me their Recipts....But I will in the future watch for and be aware of this happening....Thanks all.

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill

Hey guys - for your interest, when I got scammed by "Paypal" look-alike I didn't give them any information. I did get asked to click on their link to verify which I did go look at, but decided it didn't look right so declined to go any further.

However even that was apparently enough and there have been several attempts to charge items to me that obviously have originated from these crooks. I don't know how they were able to access my details from merely entering the site, but I thank Paypal for alerting me to it and in fact being on the ball enough to not charge me anything.

I get emails all the time from "Ebay & Paypal"...I NEVER open them...delete immediately! My rule is to never open a business site from my email. I will occasionally go to "my favorites", bring up the site, & see what, if anything needs done. ANYTIME you see an email that asks you to verify information, TRASH that puppy!
I have never had a problem with either.
Mike

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George MacMichael from The Real Mccoys