In case anyone is interested, Cabela's is having a one day sale on their glass CGR flyrods. Normally $129.99 and on sale today only for $51.99. Plus they have free shipping on orders over $99.
Dave
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In case anyone is interested, Cabela's is having a one day sale on their glass CGR flyrods. Normally $129.99 and on sale today only for $51.99. Plus they have free shipping on orders over $99.
Dave
Dave,
Thanks for the tip. I placed one on order along with a pair of boots I needed. The rod will make a great silent auction item.
Larry ---sagefisher---
The 5/6 is on it's way. Too good of a price to leave it be. ;)
What is the attraction to fiberglass rods? I'm not being a smart a--, I'd just like to be informed. Is it nostalgia? The glass rods I remember weren't very good compared to our graphite rods of today? There seems to be a market for them and I can't understand why.
Please inform me. Maybe I'd be interested in one.
Lastchance,
I have a Hardy "Perfection" glass rod - old school. I can tell you that premium glass rods fish great. They tend to be slower......in fact, much like bamboo, but without the weight. The rod "play" upon a hook-up transfers much more "feel" than most higher tensile rods.
For fishing big water, I much prefer today's high quality graphite/boron type rods with a lot more strength and a faster action.
But, for smaller waters, a QUALITY glass rod can be very refreshing. In my opinion, of course.
A good, high quality glass rod is not the old, mass produced fiberglass rods that many of us old timers grew up using and were very happy when graphite came out. No question about that. But, high quality, great taper designed glass rods are light years ahead of the old Fenwick glass rods of the past.
I have in the neighborhood of 20 vintage glass rods
Contrary to popular opinion, they were not all the same quality or the same action.
My first glass rod was a POS Conolon. I still have it but it's not worth using.
I then graduated to a Lamiglas that my father built for me in '72. Big difference.
Now-a-days, I'm more likely to be fishing a Phillipson or a JKFisher as anything else (Hardy used Fisher blanks) although there's a Garcia 9wt has been getting quite a work-out lately.
It's not nostalgia with me, I had some quality glass rods when graphite came along so I never fully made the switch
AGREE!!!! Nostalgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastchance
lastchance,
Yep, nostalgia has a lot to do with it, and also, maybe more important, personal preference. The original 'fly' rod was a sapling or branch freshly cut from a tree or bush. Then they started tying saplings together to make the rod longer. Then bamboo showed up and everyone wanted one of those. Metal rods came into play for a short while, the fiberglass, then graphite and graphite/metal composites and so on. Each rod casts differently, has a different feel, thus personal preference.
When you look at how much some people pay for old restored cars at auctions, that really shows how much nostalgia plays into our choices.
Larry ---sagefisher---
Nostalgia can be part of it. But some like myself prefer the softer actions. My favorite graphite rod is an Orvis unsanded far-&-fine. Which by today's standards is closer to fiberglass than new generation graphite. I prefer the casting stroke most of all. But also the tippet protection and rod action when playing fish. I prefer glass over both boo and graphite. Especially some of the newer glass. I've never been a fan of faster graghite & I've bought and sold a good number of them over the years thinking i should. I much prefer the parabolic feel of a glass rod, from tip to cork.
How much money for a decent glass rod? How about a rod kit for building. I've never researched glass rods. I like a medium action for casting dries and a little backbone to with which to nymph.
You should jump on my Hardy Perfection glass rod listed in the "Things for sale" forum..........Amazing feel and cast.Quote:
Originally Posted by NJTroutbum
Sounds great, Byron, but I don't have the cash right now.
The Cabelas CGR 7' 4/5 is a great rod. Just went on sale for $51. Normally $129. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lastchance
They are great rods Byron.
to me, its all about the action. Once you learn the action of glass, it is a very relaxing stroke. i love these rods on the somewhat sheltered eastern streams I fish, very accurate, very delicate presentation, really great roll casting. If you fish big western rivers with lots of wind and need to pound it out 80', it may not be the tool for the job. (Can you really fish effectively at those distances anyway?) (of course, folks have been fishing boo out west forever, and love it...)
My fav graphite rod for trout is my Winston 8.5" 4wt biit, which, i guess, is a lot more like glass than a lot of other graphite rods.
Let me tell ya.....I don't know how they did it, but the 7 1/2' 5/6 CGR arrived today. $49 total using my points. $56 sale price. This thing is built beautifully, and I just threw a 6WT Orvis Warmwater taper line like a dream in the driveway. Flawless cork and a very nice rod. Leaves you scratching your head, looking at other rods in the corner. LOL
NJ,
Good for you. If only I could get you to fish my Perfection........I would love to see your face hooking a nice fish on it...........Not your face, but on the line......
Never fished it...would love to. I have cast the Hardy 7' 4wt. I forgot the model name? Liked it guite a bit. I believe it was the Test.
This is an older rod. Still has plastic on the handle. Said to be one of their best glass rods.
Throws a lot of line, but still soft tipped. When you have a trout on, it feels exactly like bamboo.
I just have too many rods and primarily fish larger rivers which lend themselves to the 9 footers........
I would sell it with a money back guarantee.......no questions asked.
I reckon a person can't have them all, no matter how hard we try. Right now I'm invested in a Johnson Profile 800 that a good friend is rebuilding. Next summers bass rod. The older Hardy's we're nice for sure.
For those who are curious about glass rods, check into the Fiberglass Flyrodders forum. I fished graphite for years, then I picked up a Winston WT 8' 4 weight, and discovered I really liked a slower action rod. This eventually led me to trying glass. As mentioned previously, some of the old glass rods had a great action, while some were dogs. I have some old vintage rods that will cast with the best of the graphites, such as Hardy JET or an old Hardy Perfection (not the one Byron is talking about). The Perfection he is talking about is a very slow smooth action. I recently attended an outing of flyfishers here in southern Oklahoma, and let some of the guys try a few glass rods. Everybody that tried my 8' 3/4 weight Steffen was amazed at the way it cast. I have about 25 glass rods, and am trying manfully to resist buying more.
Larry
Nah ... don't worry about it! Buy more!! I can help!!
(good to see you here, Larry! It seems like a really long time!)
Not sure what you mean by: "(not the one Byron is talking about)"............Please clarify?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canoeman1947
Byron,
Hardy first built a Perfection series back in the 1960's, and that is the rod I have. I believe it came out after the original Hardy JET, designed by John E. Tarantino, who was a world champion fly caster. The rods were based on Fisher blanks. Actually they may have been Hardy blanks built in the rod factory that Fisher built for Hardy. All the equipment was built, then disassembled and shipped to England for reassembly. The Hardy blanks of the time were very similar to blanks made by Fisher for Winston, Scientific Anglers System series rods, and the Leon Chandler series rods from Cortland. J. Castwell did a report on this forum quite a few years ago on the newer Hardy Perfection, which I'm assuming is the rod you have, as yours still has the plastic on the grip. The old Perfection rods were built on a brown blank. The newer rods were built on a black blank, and came out in 1998. The newer rods were only built for a few years, and the rod cosmetics were much more luxurious than the the older series. The original Perfection was a fairly fast action for fiberglass, while the newer Perfection has a buttery soft, slow action. So far I have cast only a couple of rods slower, a Lamiglas 6'6" 2 weight and my Axisco Airrite Stream 6 piece 7'6" 3 weight. The one characteristic I always hear mentioned whenever anybody casts my friend's Perfection or my Axisco Airrite is the smoothness of the action.
Larry
p.s. - Betty, it has been a long time. I've been hanging out mostly with the glass folks and ultralight folks, but I have seen many familiar names on here since I checked back in. I'm afraid "buy more" is my lot in life.
"I'm afraid "buy more" is my lot in life."
Hey, Larry. you're a flyfisher. Of course it's your lot!
Chuck