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Coch y bonddu
Hook: Medium weight #10 (pre-WW2 - see note), or modern equivalent
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, dark chocolate
Hackle: Coch y bonddu, or dark furnace - webby cock - tied short
Body: Peacock herl
Tag: Krystal Flash, gold
Rib: Tying thread
Note: Pattern tied for a historical wingless wet swap - hence the hook selection, and retention of the huge barb :cool:
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Cheers,
Hans W
What is furnace? Is that dark brown with black running along the stems?
Hans - As always - nicely tied. Mustads?
Steven - 'Furnace' is as you describe. "... dark brown with black running along the stems." Basically a brown 'Badger'. Coch y bonddu hackle is the same PLUS the edges of the feathers are black.
Allan
"Roc" is the rib?
Joe
That has got to be deadly
Thanks Allan. I recently purchased a brown half neck over the web. I most definitely got a lot of furnace. Now I know what to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allan
Indeed Joe. Thanks. Corrected now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Billingsley
Cheers,
Hans "dyslexic fingers" W
Oh darn, I thought I had learned by first Dutch word.
Hans,
Great looking fly. There is an interesting article in the latest issue of the International Federation of Fly Fishers magazine, The Flyfisher, by Ni Rogers, a U.K. IFFF member talking about the Coch-y-bonddu fly. He says it is a Welsh fly, named after a Welsh beetle that once frequented the heather in the uplands of the hills of Wales. It can be fished either wet or dry. Tied on a lighter 'up eye' hook and using cock hackles for dry or on a heavier 'down-eyed' hook using hen hackles for the wet.
I love to see the old flies still being tied.
Larry ---sagefisher---
Steven: I've been told that it is very difficult for the breeders of brown hackle to avoid having a black section of the barb closest to the stem. (Per Metz comment re their Microbarb Saddles) This is not to be considered a handicap and is used as an advantage.. It results in a nice darker thorax area beneath the brown hackles. I've also heard that some of the famous classic Catskill tiers use a light colored silver badger for cream hackles for this reason. I have no evidence to support these thoughts however, it's all hearsay..
Very nice tie! This is an excellent beetle imitation. It's near impossible to find coch y bonddu hackle anymore. Used to be able to get badger with black tips as well, but haven't seen any of that either (have seen it in books from the 70s, but nothing in the shops).
Uncle Jesse, "Weilenmann" is a darned fine Dutch word. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Jesse
*chuckle* too bad it is a Swiss, not Dutch, name. Ah well... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed_D
Ah, but 'tis a fine Swiss name, Hans! -Chuck
Oh well, Americans and foreign languages... <sigh>Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Weilenmann
;)
How about "vliegvissen"? That seems like a very nice Dutch word. (Thank you, Bing translator.)
Does "Weilenmann" mean "Walker" as in a cartman or wagoner who walks with the wagon instead of riding? Feel free to tell me to mind my own business. I am a curious soul but I don't wish to be rude. "Dillon" comes from the French "de Leon", of (the) lion. In particular a French knight Jean de Leon, who mightily impressed my Irish ancestors.
Regards,
Ed