Drowned Black Caddis

http://www.flytierspage.com/hweilenm...ack_caddis.jpg


Drowned Black Caddis
Hook: Grip 12804BL #14 (or equivalent)
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
Body: Wire, black
Wing: Magpie tail barbs
Hackle: Black


Cheers,
Hans W

Woohooooooo! I just got a magpie tail. Asked a friend for one twenty odd years ago but it never turned up. Added one to an order last week so now I can tie this one. Timed to perfection Hans.
Cheers,
A.

Beautiful fly, Hans. We'd have to get by on this side of the pond with something besides magpie, I think, since the our black-billed version is covered under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. Black hen feather (or maybe black-dyed pheasant rump) would probably do, although they don't have the same iridescence as the magpie.

Regards,
Scott

Scott, Do you get Teal ducks? If so the iridescent green feathers from the wing will give a similar effect. Far from the same but you will get the green black effect.
Cheers,
A.

Great looking fly!
I have tied something similar (although not nearly so well done) using the black feathers from the neck ring on a rooster pheasant and the trout would eat especially in the evenings. I was never sure if they took it for a cadis or the little black stoneflies we have in this part of the world.

Hans, I continue to be amazed and inspired by your beautiful flies. Another scource for iriedescent dark green or bronze feathers that I use a lot are body feathers from an Eastern wild turkey.

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Originally Posted by oldster

Another scource for iriedescent dark green or bronze feathers that I use a lot are body feathers from an Eastern wild turkey.

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I agree - that is a sterling alternative.

http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/...ps069d197a.jpg

Dyed black pheasant rump actually does have a metallic sheen (although it may not show well in the pic). At least I won't be tempted to go around scrounging for shed magpie feathers or deal with the ethical and legal ramifications :D


Regards,
Scott

Scott,

Nice bug ;-)

I am discouraging anyone from harvesting illegal feathers. What I know is that Veniard sells packaged legal magpie tales.

The wild turkey option is a good one, as can be seen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9fKff3Kb5o

Cheers,
Hans W

I think that possession of feathers from protected birds is illegal in the U.S. no matter what the source. There may be no need to protect magpies in Europe and I would have no problem using their feathers if I was there.

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Originally Posted by rainbowchaser

I think that possession of feathers from protected birds is illegal in the U.S. no matter what the source. There may be no need to protect magpies in Europe and I would have no problem using their feathers if I was there.

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The European Magpie, or Common Magpie, (Pica Pica) is not the same species as the North American Black Billed Magpie (Pica Hudsonia). What I meant to convey with the Veniard packaged magpie tails is that if US based Veniard dealers carry this product, I would take it that its sale is legal.

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Originally Posted by Hans Weilenmann

I am discouraging anyone from harvesting illegal feathers. What I know is that Veniard sells packaged legal magpie tales.

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Geez, Hans, I hope it didn't come across that I was questioning the legality of any materials you use; I've got nothing but the highest respect for all you've done for the flyfishing/tying community.

Scott

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Originally Posted by ScottP

Geez, Hans, I hope it didn't come across that I was questioning the legality of any materials you use.

Scott

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*chuckle*

Scott, not at all.

Cheers,
Hans W

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Originally Posted by Hans Weilenmann

The European Magpie, or Common Magpie, (Pica Pica) is not the same species as the North American Black Billed Magpie (Pica Hudsonia). What I meant to convey with the Veniard packaged magpie tails is that if US based Veniard dealers carry this product, I would take it that its sale is legal.

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common names of birds.....as confusing as common names of insects, Thanks for the clarification Hans