Bimini tippet's

Can anyone point me in the direction for making bimini tippets? I want to see what all is involved.

A friend convinced me to buy an Orvis braided leader the other day, and I instantly fell in love with it. The pack came with 2 - 6x tippets.

A. I assume they are whats called "bimini". Not postive, please correct me if you know.

B. And, I'm down one...(thanks Mr. tree)and I would really like to get more.

From Orvis, they're not cheap...but I like 'em!

Lend me your knowledge O great fly fishing people!

I'm sure it's available on line. However I like to have it in book form-try Kreh & Sosin's knot book.

Mike, sorry, I donot understand your post.

Bimini patterns are available online . They work but are not a simple thing to make.Follow the instructions carefully and keep going. Remember what your first "home made " fly looked like? Well thats what your going to say about your first dozen or so bimini's.
Orvis Biminis do not look like what you will find on line.
Good luck.

Perch

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Originally Posted by J Castwell

Mike, sorry, I donot understand your post.

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Me either....

Bimini twist is a technique...a type of knot ....you don't buy it....at least I think that's correct....

Orvis sells tippets with pre-tied bminis with loops for attaching to leader butts using the loop to loop method. They also sell braided leader butts with included tippets with a bmini. This is what Mike purchased.

If Mike wants to continue to use tippets with the bimini, it would be less expensive in the long run to make them himself. For the price of an Orvis package of 4 tippets with bminis, you can purchase a bulk spool of mono and tie a few hundred(you need to invest your time). I use tippets with pre-tied biminis for many saltwater and some freshwater applications. I tie them while watching a ballgame on the tube.

A web search on 'bimini twist' will find many pages with instruction on tying the knot. The basic bimini will be the same but there will be variations in how the knot is finished off.

This is a knot that it really helps to learn from someone in person. I suggest learning/practicing with twine or some backing first to get the hang of the required motions before working with mono. With a little practice biminis can be tied very quickly.

tailingloop....good post.... :!:

Yes, excellent reply. And now I understand much better what I am dealing with.

I will do the web search and see what I can find out on tying the bimini knot.

JT- the reason I called it a bimini tippet is that is what it is called on the Orvis site.

I spoke from total ignorance, and seemed to have took a few down with me. :D

Thank you tailingloop... looks like I'm in to tippet making now! Woohoo! New hobby!

a bimini in 6x is where I got lost

I started out with the same quest, but quickly discareded it in favor of tying my own furled leaders. THis has proven to be a worthwile endeavor as I have more control over how my flies are presented.

Do a Web search for furled leaders (they cost about .75 to tie one up) and you don't have to tie/twist any bimini tippetts.
You can also find tons of useful data on: http://furledleaders.proboards26.com/

I think I agree w/JC. A bimini does result in significant give and tippet protction, particularly a double bimini. With 16# class and a 50#+ fish that's a good thing. But tying a bimini can produce a lot of heat at the junction and I don't know I'd trust it in really light lines. I've used Orvis' tarpon leaders and the supplier does produce a very tight compact knot. In the lightline freshwater version I guess they do have a convenience aspect in changing tippet, but so does a simple perfection loop.

JC,

Don't think I've ever seen a 6x Bimini. When they need one that big, they typically go to a one piece. :wink: :lol:

Paul

The Bimini Twist is not that hard of a knot to tie, once you know how to tie one. But it does require some practice.

Another knot that is used for the same purpose is the Spider Hitch, which is easier to learn.

Double the line, to create a long looped lind.

Loop the double line under double line, near the tag end. Hold in place with Index finger and thumb (thumb on top).

Wrap loop line over thumb, then under base line(5 times).

Then run the loop in of the running line thought the loop from the top side, and pulls tight. Trim excess tag end

There is also the German Loop Knot and the Duncan Braid Loop Knot, That can be used.

Hi Mike..............
You can check out how to tie the Bimini Twist at: http://www.compleatangler.biz/Knots/BiminiTwist.htm

spooled bimini tippets

http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choi ... at_id=6014

Bimini twists are just plain fun to tie.
When it comes together it's like a magic trick.
I rarely ever use one myself, prefering multi-turn surgeon loops,(a spyder hitch is nothing more than a five turn surgeon loop)but I like to tie them for practice anyway.
Like tailingloop I practice tying knots while watching the tube.
Good knots are just as important to flyfishing as many other things that are stressed more often here on FAOL

Orvis has one of those little handbooks called The Orvis Streamside Guide to Leaders, Knots and Tippets by Tom Rosenbauer for like $16. Has some very interesting and step by step instructions and the bimini is in there.
And ducksterman, if you haven't read or figured it out yet, a bimini is a little shock absorber more or less. Goes after leader and before tippet in a loop to loop connection. That is why they say it saves on tippet.
I have used them and loved them but, then just went to full flexed rods and furled and no tippet breakage here.

Bimini's are great for salmon and steelhead. 100% strength loop-to-loop knot -- performs great. May be a little overkill for 6x tippet, but they work great. I use a combination of fluorocarbon furled leader, and a Maxima (10 lb) Bimini tippet for my salmon/steelhead setups. Careful -- You want the line to break before the rod.

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Bimini's are great for salmon and steelhead. 100% strength loop-to-loop knot -- performs great. May be a little overkill for 6x tippet, but they work great. I use a combination of fluorocarbon furled leader, and a Maxima (10 lb) Bimini tippet for my salmon/steelhead setups. Careful -- You want the line to break before the rod.

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I can see that for sure. Steelhead! Great you brought up about the line before the rod.
I fish some rivers however that require the tiny little guys and 6X is going to be the connection. Some in the 24" and in the current, and that bimini does help keep the line from snapping.

I've used the Orvis bimini tippets in 6X for fishing to large finicky trout. They worked well for me and I definitely felt like they added some extra strength to the tippet. I agree that the furled leaders probably also add some extra stretch.

an article on freshwater bimini tippets

http://www.flyfishingmagazines.com/a...ure_047a.shtml

Well, after reading some of the info provided above, I grabbed a spool of 6X and went to tying/knoting.

There is defintely a learning curver to these leaders, but I turned out a few successful ones. Even put one on the line, trudged through the snow and caught a few small rainbows in a local pond.

Thanks all! I'm sure soon I'll be overstocked in these leaders...