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I stumbled across this and thought I would share it. No need to whisper while fishing!
(Sound) waves from the air do not penetrate into water, and sound waves in water do not penetrate into the air. The two media are acoustically separate. This may be of interest to anglers, who can feel free to talk while they fish.
Of course, most of you probably already knew this. ;)
Sorry, I don't buy it. Sound waves are indeed transferred into water quite inefficiently however some gets absorbed ...that's why we have a middle ear.
Have to call horsefeathers on this one. I can hear people when they yell above water when I am submerged a few inches in a pool...yes the sound becomes negligible if one gets down below that, though.
This is a major setback to my plan of training the fish in local waters to come to the sound of my voice! :)
That's easy, submerge your face and yell while throwing floating fish food. They will respond to one of those sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by FishnDave
I think the bass fisherman researched this to death many years ago, you have to yell really loud to penetrate the surface with sound waves. Dropping anything in an aluminum boat on the other hand sends out sound waves that everyone in the water hears.
This tale was obviously perpetrated long ago by a husband that was forced to fish with his wife. ;)
I think it depends on what you say to them.
When I was a young boy that was the ploy used by my Dad and my uncle to keep me quiet!
OK, what if you are standing in the water wading and the sound waves are traveling down your body into the water?
Sorry,
I just had to add 2cents worth...;)
There are differences between vibrations directly transmitted to the water such as walking and sound waves from the air transmitted to the water. I agree with the poster that talking does not spook fish.
It is not enough to say that if you were under water and and someone shouted above you, you can hear the shout. First of all, you are selectively listening for that specific noise and your ear is tuned for human speech. The fish are not.
Fish detect vibrations mainly through their lateral lines and they do have an inner ear for higher vibrations. However to hear human speech, these two methods of hearing must be able to detect the frequency of human speech. They are not very sensitive to the frequency range of human speech. Plus even if they heard a whisper of noise, they would not easily recognize it as danger amongst the other noises of running water
"1) Trout cannot hear human voices as we speak at a range outside of their hearing frequency so it?s ok to have the stream-side conversation"
http://www.hooked-on-flies.com/trout_basics.htm
"Trout Hearing. Trouts hear through frequency receptors and movement receptors so they can find food in all types of water. Fish cannot hear voices outside the water if you talk."
http://www.troutfishingtip.com/flyfishingtips.html
"First, trout can't hear human voices outside of the water. Thus, having a loud conversation about something along the bank of a river will not spook the trout."
http://www.fishtheoutdoors.com/artic...senses-21.html
My Grandfather would say "Be quiet, you will scare the fish." My Dad would say "Be quiet, you will scare the fish." My grandfather and dad both caught lots of fish. Who am I to question their wisdom.
fishbum
I for one am on the side of talking spooks fish !! I've BEEN THERE !!!! I don't believe it is the sound of human voices, but it is the sound of something unfamiliar to them.
And I really like it quite out there, and just listen to the water, wind, birds, squirrels, etc.
So maybe it's me !!! LOL LOL
When fishing in the company of a youngster there is a lot more to "Being quiet" than not talking. There no throwing rocks, sticks, sweet gum balls, cow chips, whatever can be thrown in the water and all the other things a kid can do to make noise. I was probably at least a regional champion at asking questions also, I may have been the best in the state (or at least that's what I have been told.)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbum
Does talking scare fish?
No, it just bugs me :cool: Unless, of course, I'm talking to myself, which I find very soothing at times, yet alarmingly annoying at others...
Kelly.
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Originally Posted by jjtroutbum
I won't tell your wife, if you won't tell mine. lol
I thought my grandfather made this up when I was 8 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jjtroutbum
I think fish get used to things and respond to things out of the normal. I along with my three kids once stood on a bridge over a small river in Yellowstone and watched a trout feeding just below me, He was used to people and movement on the bridge so my being there didn't spook him, I suspect that if I had been on a log in the boonies over the same size river looking down on him with my three grade schoolers he would have disappeared in about 1/10th of a second. I believe that noise (talking) is the same way, if your fishing in a park that has people around at all times then talk. if your in a back woods environment then be quiet.
Eric
I think if you're talking politics, the world economy, or religion..........yes!
Bob
my dad used to tell me that all the time.. but.. my sonseems to onlycatch fish when he's gabbing away a mile a minute and not paying any or attention at all. I don't know what it is... but they like to hear him talk.
Anybody that plays poker knows that excessive talking can scare the fish at the table;):cool:
Tim
They may not hear me but I have many times heard them talking about my ineptitude to entice them to a fly that is just a touch off.
Gunny - Welcome aboard. We have quite a few veterans and retirees among the membership. Fine people.Hope you enjoy FAOL
Tim (Retired Army)
Thanks Panman. Lifelong fisher new to the Flies. Enjoying it immensely and glad to have found this site..Chock full of info..
FishnDave,
It's gotta be the talkin, cuz it can't be my wadin (like an agitator in a washing machine), or my castin (actually can hit water 7 out of 11 tries)??? And that's in the shower!! On the stream, those odds go down! LOL!!
gunnymike - Keep The Noise Down, Your Scarin The Fish!!!! Welcome to FAOL! Enjoy!
Best regards, Dave S.
[QUOTE=fishdog54;397850]cuz it can't be my wadin (like an agitator in a washing machine)]
That's why you should wade upstream the sound only travels downstream with the current.
Would you be interested in some beach front property in Louisiana?
Nah!! they dont care.
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Uncle Jesse,
Up stream, down stream, across stream, on the bank, they hear me. Heck, they can hear my car door close!!! As far as beach front property in Louisiana for sale - lets talk! I'll have my people call your people! Although I have to warn you, I bought plenty of it during the last big sale offer, so I don't think I will need much! LOL!!!
Best regards, Dave S.
Several years ago my fishing buddy was off somewhere and brought me back a "Fish Whistle", only fish can hear it. Maybe you can find you one, I can look and see if I can find it and send you a photo and you can copy.
Uncle Jesse,
Love to have those fish whistle plans. Any advantage I can get, to out smart those devious, sneaky, sly trout, will come in handy. Already made some room in my vest. Do they come in species specific hearing ranges? These aren't cheap knock-off deer whistle plans are they?? We all know how well THOSE work!!!
Best regards, Dave S.