in the Black Hills?!? Check out the weather cam from Deadwood and Rapid City!!:p
http://www.kotatv.com/Global/link.as...av=menu411_3_2
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in the Black Hills?!? Check out the weather cam from Deadwood and Rapid City!!:p
http://www.kotatv.com/Global/link.as...av=menu411_3_2
Betty, ME! ME! Take Me! I grew up around the Paha Sapa and still remember how to dress for the weather. I'd take a trip to the hills if the water is still flowing.
REE
Guess once the wind dies down, 46 inches of snow wouldn't/shouldn't be a deterrent!!
At least there wouldn't be a lot of people on the stream!
Betty -
Saw a news flash on the snow in SD early this morning and thought about you and wondered how the NO trouts were doing ?? Think I'll pass on the SD outing, and fish locally.
John
P.S. Hope that gopher got gone ??
Boy, don't I wish ... about the gopher. He's hanging on with each not so little claw in each toe!
Actually do wish I was there in South Dakota. Once the sun comes out, after the storm's done, it becomes a fantasy land of brilliant white sparkles and crisp air.
It'd be a good day to sit in Cheyenne Crossing and eat pie!! And Indian tacos!
46" of snow!!!! I can't even fathom what that must be like all at once. You're right about one thing....not a lot of people fishing. (I don't even know where South Dakota is ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by Betty Hiner
Actually, it's 58 and raining here this morning,,, and
WE ARE GOING!
After chum salmon for a couple of hours about noon. :)
Betty
Wish I was with ya! I'd go for sure. In fact, temps are in the mid to low 40's here and spitting snow. I am getting up tomorrow morning at oh dark thirty to make the four hour drive to my favorite stream.
Dave
Betty, I had a chance to take a job there just a few months ago. I'm glad I'm still here in KC.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betty Hiner
Tim,
Actually, I'm still here in KC ... but must admit, I'd give my eye teeth to be there.
There'd be very few days a year that you couldn't get out on the stream. <OK, yes. Yesterday would have been one of them!:rolleyes:> And you wouldn't have to drive 4 or more hours to do it ... unless you were going to Wyoming!!
ausable_ny, all I can say is "come on out! pick me up in KC and we'll head west <I do know where SD is!!!!>" You'd never look back!
Oops! Forgot to add: There are never very many fisherpeople in the Black Hills. 1). People tend not to know where the Black Hills are, :rolleyes:,and 2) Did I mention there are no trouts in the Black Hills?:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Betty,
As one who has spent a good deal of time in the Black Hills, I can attest that thre are NO trouts in the Black Hills. I'm sure it has to do with your signature line, because the Black Hills are a really ugly place, fit only for rattlesnakes, ticks, biting flies and such.
One of these days, Betty, I'd like to show you a couple of spots my Grandpa showed me that have NO trouts any where near them.
REE
Ron,
I would be delighted!
Betty
Betty,
Check what the temp is here in good ole Tucson, Arizona (even up in the mountains it is a beautiful day). That's a nice thing about this place (you don't have to hang up the fly rod!!!
Goin' tomorrow :)
By now,,, you have found my other thread. Right? :)
OMG!!! Yes!!! What a day you had!!
The gopher (in my throat) and I had a lovely day. I have so much snot in me, it can't be contained only to my head ... even my jeans are too tight today!
I would soooo much preferred to be fishing!!
Oh Betty. I had a very witty reply to post until I read your last post. It left me with nothing to say!!:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Betty Hiner
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_2_18.gifHRH Hope you and your Gopher come to a mutual agreement
http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp...p=ZNxmk788YYUS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...is/lensnow.jpg
I like the snow Betty.
When are we going?
betty
yummmm i love pie after fishing. tell me ...what is an indian taco?
To understand Indian Tacos you have to understand fry bread. Fry Bread is a wonderful, light, though fried in oil (lard is the oil of choice) bread. Women protect their fry bread recipes back home.
I prefer my fry bread pipping hot, straight from the hot oil, topped with butter and honey. Yummmmmmm.
To make an Indian Taco, take a piece of this wonderful fry bread and place it on a plate. On top of the bread, add homemade meaty chili (reheated is best, 2d day chili is always better), shredded lettuce, diced tomates, grated commodity cheese and chunky salsa of your choice. Ta Da, one Indian Taco, fit for a king.
Wash this down with a good strong cup of rez coffee and your good to go.
I was wondering about the Indian Taco myself, thanks REE, sounds delicious...:)
Reading in our local paper yesterday, they gave a travel advisory for South Dakota, I liked there advice, they didn't say please don't go out and attempt to drive, they didn't say road conditions are hazardous, they didn't say we recommend you not travel, they put it simply, there travel advisory ..."DON'T...
Ron, you forgot the sour cream! I'd never had an Indian taco till we stopped at the store in Cheyenne Crossing. They are beyond words! I have the recipe for them (no, not the fry bread, that's totally secret!!) and a source for the bread mix (yes, you can buy the mix, already put together). Wonderful stuff!!
Looks like Joey-Doughey has some competition. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Eagle Elk
REE, can that chili be subsituted with say,,, Spam?
FRY BREAD FROM A MIX!!!!! Blasphemy!!! Betty, if you want VEE's recipe for camping fry bread, quick, easy and very tasty, she'd be happy to send it to you. Her recipe she uses for drum practice sessions and ceremony, though, is a closely guarded secret.
Your right, I did forget the sour cream, Betty.
VEE plans on making fry bread at the next Idaho Fish-In cook out night if that will draw some of you to Idaho.
TyroneFly,
Fry bread was what the women made when the meat rations were spoiled or non-existant during the early reservation days. They'd cook up the fry bread after sifting the weevils out of the flour to feed their families. Spam is better than rotten beef, so slap some on a piece of bread and eat hearty.
REE
Um Uh Betty.......... I amost hate to bring this up but my algebra book learning every once in a while comes crashing to the fore........ You state that there are no trout in The black hills so x = troutless black hills....... and trout don't live in ugly places........so Y = trout + beautiful places........therefore x + y in this case would be the Black hills with no trout = an ugly place....... splane that one away ........ hee hee..... :rolleyes::p:oops: or have we been misled in some suspicious way......hmmmm:confused:
"Lots of cold weather", "tons of snow", "Indian Tacos",and lots of SNOT! (And, of course, what would an FAOL post, BE, without SOME SICKO mentioning "SPAM"?), and this entire thread seems perfectly normal for any, fly fishing board!
Your Royal Highness, if by chance you could somehow get up JC's way, before you lose all that pent up congestion................ you could be REALLY helpful to JC and his Scandahoovian brethren, in making that "Rude-as-Fish", he enjoys so much. "Tradition" calls for Rude-as-Fish to be made with "Aged camel, nasal drainage", but I'm sure in a pinch, any type would do!?
Naw,,, that stuff is for 'sissies'. We go for the real thing,,, authentic. :)
oh my god that sounds yummy! i need a recipe for fry bread. who's gonna give me one?
please? !
OKAY RON,,,,,,,Who is giong to dry off my logsheet??? Hu??
All the more reason to get there!!
Folks,
If fry bread gets your mouth watering, try dipping your fry bread in wojapi. No...better yet, don't do that. You'll be ruined for ever.
Wojapi is berry soup. My Gramma made it with whatever berries she had available. Mash them up and boil them down to a thick, warm sweet soup.
Dip your bread in that and give up all hope of a small waistline.
REE
REE,
Sounds great.. yummmm! Next years Idaho Fish In?
Z
Just type in Apache Fry Bread Recipes, or Apache Tacos (Indian Tacos) into the search engine. Also some great Navaho recipes. All this made from scratch (mix...........New York City.......Get a Rope !!!!). Better yet, come to the Arizona White Mountains & experience the great year round Fly Fishing for many different species of trout (Native Apache, Colorado River Cutt, Browns, Brookies, Rainbows< Grayling) not to mention the excellent quisine (Apache Fry Bread, & Indian Tacos with hot Hatch Chiles). Life is good when ya don't have to hang up your fly rod for the Winter. Ya need to get away from that cold wet climate Betty. Dang, just makes my arthritis hurt all the more thinking about it !!!
Ron,
I was going to send a PM for the recipe, "in trade" for the taco filling recipe I have :rolleyes: but this thread has taken on a life of its own! Maybe everyone would enjoy it?
I've seen recipes that use only flour, salt, and baking powder; others that use powdered milk in combination with the other ingredients. Guess that's one reason I went with the Woodenknife family mix. (I know, I'm bad ... very bad!!)
Maybe we could throw in a wojapi recipe, or two, also? That's another one I've seen prepared a multitude of ways!
Betty
Betty and Ron -Quote:
Originally Posted by Betty Hiner
PLEASE !!!!!!
As soon as those recipes hit this thread, I'm printing them and heading for the kitchen ( more likely, the grocery store, first ) !!
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, in advance.
John
**From someone who hardly ever reads the food threads !!
OK ... here's what I got.
Indian Taco Meat Sauce
2 lbs ground beef
1 C tomato sauce
1 medium can refried beans
1 T. taco seasoning (powdered)
1 T chopped onion
1 t chili powder
1 t crushed red pepper
1 t Louisiana Hot Sauce
1 t salt
Enough water to cover
Put all ingredients together in a good sized pot, and boil for 10 to 45 minutes
Fry Bread
4 C all purpose flour
1/2 t salt
1 T baking powder
1 1/2 C warm water
4 C shortening for frying
Combine dry ingredients. Stir in 1 1/2 C water. Knead till soft but not sticky. Shape dough into 3" diameter balls. Flatten into patties 1/2 inch thick. Make a small hole in the center of each of the patties.
Fry one at a time in hot shortening, turning to brown on each side. Drain on paper towels.
To make up taco
Take a round piece of cooked fry bread, and top with meat sauce, grated cheese, lettuce and tomato; add any combination of onion, hot sauce, sour cream, salsa, and/or sliced black olives. Serve open faced with a knife and a fork.
Enjoy!!!!!
Betty,
Your recipe for the Taco Meat sounds about right. We just use kidney beans instead of refried.
The bread recipe is good. It makes a light bread that goes well with butter and honey, butter and jam, or as a base for an Indian Taco.
I have tried posting the recipe for VEE's camping Fry Bread, Pow Wow Soup and Wojapi, but the board keeps telling me I'm not logged in for some reason. Guess I'll try a different way.
Camping Fry Bread
VEE made this for some elder Laota women a year or two back. After seconds and thirds on the bread, they asked politely if they could be privey to the recipe. That means it's good bread.
3 Cups Pancake Mix (I like the flavor of the Krustez, but they are all good)
1 Cup of flour
1 1/2 Cups of water added in small amounts while stirring until the dough comes away from the sides of the bowl.
Knead and let rest. Divide into pieces sized as you want and flatten. Make the bread thinner in the center or make a small hole in the center as Betty said.I have seen pieces of Fry Bread three inches across and some as big as dinner plates. Your choice.
Fry in oil until golden brown on both sides. Test a piece to be sure it's done all the way through. Drain on paper towels and serve hot with butter and honey, butter and jam or as the base of an Indian taco.
You can also add a little sugar, mix milk with the water, or even evaporated milk with the water. A lot of Native folks are lactose intolerant so we just use water.
Enjoy.
Wojapi
This is berry soup, Use whatever berries are in season or on hand. Smash the berries with a potato masher in a cooking pot (this takes a lot of berries), add a bit of water and stir, smashing some more. Add sugar to taste. Cook down over medium heat until thick. Serve hot, in small amounts with meals. If there are elders eating, strain the seeds from the Wojapi. Berry seeds under flase teeth are uncomfortable.
Dip fry bread in the Wojapi. Yummmmmmmmm.
Pow Wow Soup
At Pow Wows, the elders, singers and dancers are usually fed by those hosting the Pow Wow. A way to do this cheaply is to serve a hearty soup and fry bread. This recipe is for a fmaily sized batch.
1 Pound of ground beef or buffalo, browned with salt and pepper to taste.
1 Onion, Chopped and sauteed.
Combine with (with liquid from the cans),
1 can corn kernels
1 can green beans
1 can sliced carrots
1 can kidney beans
2 cans tomato sauce
Ron likes a can of drained white hominy added to his soup.
1 can of green chilies is also an option.
Add Chili Powder and salt and pepper to taste
Heat ingredients til the veggies are tender. Serve with Fry Bread.