Anyone read the latest article by Bob Steiner about stocking fish in posted waters?
What a misinformed joke this article is.
Folks and their feelings of entitlement always make me chuckle.
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Anyone read the latest article by Bob Steiner about stocking fish in posted waters?
What a misinformed joke this article is.
Folks and their feelings of entitlement always make me chuckle.
How about a link or a synopsis of the article for those of us who are unenlightened about the details of this article?
Thanks,
Jeff
No link, but synopsis:
He lives in Pittsburgh, PA. He and his wife went on a trip to the Poconos, PA (across state) for vacation. He got there and couldn't find any fish in the streams and stated that all of the streams listed in the PA summary book as stocked were posted "No Trespassing." Claims that he called the PA Fish and Boat Commission and they told him "Well, the locals know where the fish are stocked." This upset him, because he bought a license and therefore should know where all of the fish are stocked. He's basically upset that the "locals in the know" (his words) have an unfare advantage over "outsiders" (my word) that are not there helping to stock. He further goes in this direction with the belief that these locals are getting a bigger share of the stocked trout because the locals are helping the state stock them. He infers that the state regularly stocks waters with publicly paid for trout that are not open to the public to fish for.
A quote from the article:
"The trout-fishing public, whether they live in Oleopolis, Shunk, Bushkill, Pittsburgh or Philly, have a right to know where the trout they are paying for are going. If the Pennslyvania Fish and Boat Commission wants to guarantee a high rate of acceptance for their trout stocking procedures, the license-buying public must have a standard way of locating the fish."
My issue with this article are that this is not accurate in Pennslyvania. If a stream is posted against public access to fish, it is not stocked. My other conern is that he claims to be an ex PA Waterways Conservation Officer, so he should definately know that this is not the case.
To me it sounds like he was upset that he couldn't find fish easily and needed someone to blame.
Slate - I believe you nailed it. The PFBC website has the stocking schedules posted, the sections are listed, and even what kind and how many trout are stocked. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look on a map and find exactly where those fish were put in and even the day it happened! Perhaps he's not taking into consideration that those streams may have seen some flooding that spread the fish out since they were stocked, who knows. Guess the old theory that anything worth having is worth working for doesn't apply here........
My guess is he most unhappy about not being able to follow the stocking truck to the creek and standing there while they throw buckets of fish in around him so he could have something to catch.
I'm five hours from fishing my home waters in Southwest PA. Never had any trouble finding fish to catch when I wanted to go out? Wasn't always easy but holy cow, if catching fish was that important he should have gone to a pay lake and taken some power bait along. What's next? Requiring the Fish Commission to put GPS implants in each fish and issuing homing devises when you buy your trout stamp?
It's called "fishing" instead of "catching" for a reason.
I was out helping the WCO stock last Wednesday at a stream in SE PA and there was a section that had no access due to landowner and that part of the stream got no fish. They don't stock if there is no public access.
Mark
Wadda ya expect; he's from the Burgh!!
That ain't even PA in my book; it's Ohio!
Them Steelers fans need to learn how to read the stocking schedule and learn what SECTIONS are all about!
;)
Don't you EVEN TRY TO PUSH PITTSBURGH INTO OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'd rather be part of ohio than new jersey. if the deleware river flooded and carved a new chanel around phily and subs , it would be the best thing that happened in PA since the signing of decleration of independence ;)
Ahhh, chipped ham. Now that's lunch meat- my mouth is watering just thinking about a roll and mayo (and a Rolling Rock) with it. Man, I miss my old Latrobe! Good ol' days.
I remember going out to Loyalhanna Creek and watching them dump truck loads by the dam- and seeing at least 1 fisherman for every fish that was put in the creek LOL.
Primanti's - arguably the best sandwich in the free world!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMc
What do you mean he coudn't find where the fish were stocked?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All he had to do is post the question on FAOL BB!!!.
I know plenty of places where they shoot fish to the water!!!!
In all honesty there is only one stocked place whith limited access - Boyscout reservation on Bushkill and even then there are ways to get yourself an access.
And if someone is a total shlep then all they have to do is walk into one of the local fishing stores and ASK!!!!!!! In my early Pocono days I got tons of advice and locations at Dunkelbergers in Stroudsburg - FOR ASKING!!!!!!!!
OK one thing in this guys defence. Stocked fish do not last very long around here. The fishing pressure on stockers is tremendous. Within two weeks after stocking you really need to know what you doing to find them. On Tobyhanna Lake for example I bring the boat to fish 50 feet or so from boat launch and 20 from the shore. There are so many people there that the only way to secure goos spot is to show up at 5AM. There is a term used for that round here: "Elbows and ...." . (After all this is a family site. :-) ).
Come on guys, you all know there are no trout in Pennsylvania. Just suckers and chubs. :rolleyes: :p
Dot
Pete,
You have "Pop" and we have Soda....and believe me..the differences don't end there! :cool: :P Now if I can find that link....
Wawa vs Sheetz
Yuengling vs Iron City
Independence Hall vs the Duquesne Incline?!?
You just can't beat Primanti's. You can't! No, you can't! Primanti's and a Yuengling. The only thing better than that is.....Nah, I think I'd take the sandwich and beer.
Lastchance - your making me homesick! You just hit on two of my very favorite things! :P