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This makes it more clear than the previous directions I have seen.
Thanks!
I was sort of surprised you don't pull hard on the tag end. Guess you don't have to. Neat looking knot, especially with the 'hackle' tool.
Larry ---sagefisher---
This is the video that I used to get the 'hang' of it.
I've tried the knot in the past, but wasn't confident enough to use it.
Sometimes I wouldn't tie it correctly and the knot would slip.
The key that I found was holding the tag in the correct position, relative to the eye of the hook, while you tighten the knot.
A few weeks back, I was confident enough to try it on the stream and it worked great.
It wastes little tippet and it's a good, strong knot.
I got to test the knot strength several times throughout the day........on snags, not big fish. ;)
Brian
A more direct link:
http://www.orvis.com/news/fly-fishin...ble-davy-knot/
Brian yes the key is to hold the tag and the hook at the same time while increasing the pressure to tighten the knot.
Anyone here done any strength tests on this knot using a scale yet?
There really is no way to determine with a knot strength test the value of any knot as many issues related cannot be determined with a simple stretch test, that said, tie my knot correctly and you should have no problem.
If it holds well enough for a 12lb brown to 5x what more can you ask for.
The 3 main reasons why knots fail are related to,,
Not tying the knot correctly.
Anglers response to setting the hook.
Using a rod action not suited to fishing fine leader/tippet
Davy W
Hi Davy.
One of these days I am going to get down to Arkansas and we will go fishing.
Larry ---sagefisher---
A knot that I have used for years is the Turle Knot. My only complaint about it was the amount of tippet I wasted when tying the knot. The Davy Knot uses an absolute minimum amount of tippet. I do believe I have converted to the Davy and Double Davy knots.
Larry ---sagefisher---
I have largely converted to using the Davy knot and the double Davy knot when I want a tight connection of the tippet to the eye of the hook, ie: not a loop knot. I find them very quick to tie and strong, as long as they are tied correctly.
One caution with the Davy knot is using it with a small tippet and a heavy wire hook. This knot depends on the knot tightening properly against the hook eye. If the wire for the hook eye is too large the knot does not bind against the hook eye properly and the knot will slip. The double Davy knot solves this problem.
Ted
I just started using this knot and really like the ease of tying especially late in the evening. It ties light tippet without the curl that I sometimes got with the clinch knot.
I'm going to have to test the knot myself.
While it looks easy to tie, and it certainly saves tippet, I'm not going to trust it until it's been tested a bit.
A good knot should consistently break at or higher than the rated test of the line. Ease of tying and tippet savings are a nice bonus, but not enough to change from proven knots without testing.
Tying fifty of them in a row with the tippet sizes you normally use and breaking them on a scale will tell you how strong a knot is and whether or not you are tying it consistently. If it's neither strong, nor consistent, I won't use it.
Hopefully these knots will stand up to the test. I'll do it this weekend and post the results here.
Buddy
Buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Sanders
By all means do so.And let us know what you determine. I have read other knot tests and take no notice as l know the value of that knot, which l figured out more than 50 years ago
I will tell you that for a average guide season l will see my customers catch in the region of 8 to 10,000 fish here on the White river and over the years that amounts to in the region of 200,000 fish, not to mention the many 1000s to my rod in my lifetime.
When you post your test results please also state how you did the test if you will.
Thanks.
Davy Wotton. A.I.S.F.F.
George Anderson at the Yellowstone Angler in Livingston did a Tippet Shootout in 2012, and reported that the Davy knot's breaking strength tested poorer than a wind knot - in other words, not so good.
See his results here: http://www.yellowstoneangler.com/gea...r-stoft-umpqua
However, Anderson's test was aimed specifically at tippet materials, not knots. Did they tie the knot properly when conducting the test? And, what about the strength of the Double Davy?
I will be interested to see your results as well, Buddy.
John
I'll let everyone know, and I'll post the methodology as well as the numbers.
I'm really hoping it's a good, strong knot.
Testing is the key, though.
Buddy
Buddy,
I would be interested to find out if I done the testing of this knot incorrectly or it failed. I thought, 3 years ago, this would be my knot of choice but found out it would not hold or seat on a large diameter wire hook like a #4 or 6. As you tightened it up, it would just continue to slip and not snug up. If you get a chance, could you include larger hooks for your testing to see if maybe I did not tie it correctly? It did seem to work fine on size 14 and smaller.
Thanks,
Just for info, on all of my large hooks, no matter what knot I use, I always place the leader/tippet through the eye of the hook twice then tie the knot. That seems to hold and I have not had problems with the knot coming untied.
Larry ---sagefisher---
I've been using this knot for years; I've never had one break, but if you get sloppy and don't tie it correctly it can slip.
Have you done this test?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Sanders
I was hoping to see your results.
John